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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience says that he fully believes that God's will empower him to take down Goliath as he had done with the lion and the bear. David is extremely lethal as a warrior because of his faith in God to overcome this enemy. Saul allowed Davis to go out to battle Goliath because he was convinced that the God David depended on could save him and defeat Goliath. Saul had faith and his faith was further strengthen by David's testimony of God's protection and empowerment.

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Saul most definitely did have faith. Saul's faith rested iin David being able to sing and play for him and put his mind to rest. His mind and heart and spirit were in constant tumult: one night it would be the heart and mind, another the mind and spirit, the next, the spirit and mind. I imagine he felt as if he had three wives, each pregnant with his baby, at the same time, all due around the same time. Instead of *that* being the most torturous thought haunting him, there was worse even than that: wrestling with YHVH all day and every night.

David's voice, his lyrics and his music, lulled Saul, and he fell asleep. Surely, this was one chosen by YHVH. Thank YHVH, for YHVH heard my cry and delivered me from my arrogant rebellion against HeWhoIs.

Saul gave in to David because he had to let David go when David knew that it was time to be let go. David was right: a day in his life as a shepherd rarely consisted only of sitting on a hill and chewing wheat. The boy spoke truth, neither a braggard nor embellisher was David. I wonder whether Saul had seen David protecting his father's flock. As he listened, Saul was moved into start calculating the odds, as Dr. Wilson pointed out. If the boy king died, it will rally the troups; they'd want to fight in David's honor, even and maybe especially Eliab. If the boy king won, the troups would feel more determined to defeat this enemy, for if such a boy could defeat the largest Philistine, their army could handle the rest. Either way, it was a win-win. David was, after all, a small and young slayer of giants.

David's faith sprang from having done things that no-one else knew, realized, or would have thought him able to do, knowing all the while that t YHVH had strenghthened him to do those things. Saul had no choice but to acknowledge or admit that, too. David's faith was contagious.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith?

David's explanation showed not just to Saul, but to all who believe, what great faith can do when placed in the God of Israel, if a lion and a bear can be slew by the power of God, how much more can a mere pagan gentile, whose god is powerless be taken down.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

God has given to all people a measure of faith, and I believe that spark of faith was lit again, as David spoke boldly to Saul of God and what God can do when the LORD is with him.

Saul also knew first hand that the LORD was with David, as when David took his harp and played it before Saul and he felt his own personal BEAST be overtaken and the evil spirit departed from him, that is POWERFUL - so who is this Goliath to stand up against the God of Israel - YES, this is what a measure of faith is. :)

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith? He has gone against two of natur's most ferocious beasts and won; He know God is his source of power and is willing to expand it to Goliah.

How lethal is David as a warrior? Very! He knows the he is just a figment of God's power; it will be God Goliah is fighting through David's FAITH!

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? David's audacity, David's example, and David's opportunity to give him a psychological advantage. He has nothing to lose but a young unknown boy; he has everything to gain when this boy wins through the power of God.

Does Saul have faith? I would call it desperation first with a prayer that what he did to the animals he can do to Goliah. He is prepared for the worse and praying for the best.

If so, what is the source of it? Out of options. He chooses to win with a boy rather than lose with his men falling to the psychological warfare of Goliah.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

David has an unshakable faith. Taking own lions and bears will do that. This means David is a lethal warrior: He doesn't look like a warrior so this will catch the giant off guard.

Saul allows David to go fight because he see the Spirit of God on this young boy and he want to see for himself, despite the risks. The source of Saul's faith could be David's faith in the same Yahweh.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith?

David seems to have been a worshipper of God even before he was annointed by Samuel. No doubt, while out in the fields tending his sheep he communicated with God through prayer. I'd go as far as to say that he invoked the name of the Lord when confronting the lion and the bear.

How lethal is David as a warrior?

I'd say he knows how to handle himself. To be able to overcome a wild animal bigger and stronger than himself indicates that he could fight like a threshing machine, as we used to say back in the day. He must also have been incredibly strong himself. He wasn't the runt of the litter, just the youngest. In Chronicles we read that the people who had taken Israel into exile had records of a mighty warrior king of ancient Israel who was never defeated in battle.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

Saul was a pragmatic man. He had nothing to lose and everything to gain by letting David take a crack at Goliath. If he lost, no big deal. it may rally the Israelites for revenge over Goliath killing a teenager . If he won . . . so much the better. The demoralizing effect on the Philistines woud be profound.

Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

I think so. After all, he did receive the Holy Spirit and had tasted the difference God made in his life. Despite God withdrawing his support for Saul I reckon he still believed in God and when encountering David who was obviously a young man of considerable faith, his own dormant faith received a bit of a boost. I'm sure we've all had an experience like that. When meeting someone who seems to be overflowing with faith in God we can't help but get a lift in our own heart from the encounter. Saul didn't stop believing in God. He still credits God with the victories in battle. He just no longer has the Holy Spirit's indwelling help in his personal everyday life.

That whole "Did Saul have faith" issue can be a problem for believers, especially in light of what we read of God regretting he'd ever made Saul king in the first place. To put it in perspective, God made Saul king to show Israel that if they had a king like the ones who ruled the countries adjacent to them, the biggest man in the nation . . . a head taller than any other man in Israel don't forget . . . they would end up just like every other country. But God needed to show Israel by experience that the king God appoints will be cut from a different cloth. After Saul's blundering rule, Israel would be all the more glad to rally around David. In Old Testament times God wasn't above using people in what we today might consider a cavalier uncaring way.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

David believes God helps him.

In human eyes, I guess David as a warrior sounds silly at this moment.

Saul lets him, just in case he wins by accident, so the humiliation of the enemy is bigger.

Maybe Saul has a little faith, but nothing compared to David.

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(1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith?

His testimony it was more than enough

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

He knew that David will win the battle

Does Saul have faith?

Yes

If so, what is the source of it?

in 1Samuel 15 God help Saul to defeat the Amalek even though he rebel against God.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37)

What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith?

David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience indicates how David was courageous and has great faith in the Lord.

How lethal is David as a warrior?

David does not look to be lethal as a warrior. In fact he was a little boy and has not been at war.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

I think Saul allows David to go out to battle Goliath in order to remove an embarrasment of his army as no soldier dared to step forward to fight Goliath.

Does Saul have faith?

Saul has faith.

If so, what is the source of it?

The source of this faith is the narration by David of his experience of killing a lion and a bear. Saul knows that, very few of his soldiers can killi a lion or a bear.

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David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience says that he fully believes that God's will empower him to take down Goliath as he had done with the lion and the bear.David has an unshakable faith in God. David spoke boldly to Saul of God and what God can do when the LORD is with him. Saul allows David to go fight because he see the Spirit of God on this young boy. Saul had faith and his faith was further strengthen by David's testimony of God's protection and empowerment.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience

David was just a young man that had learnt to face the challenges of life himself.

He had killed a lion and a bear- attackers.

David has had an experience and had developed enough courage.

He had developed enough faith not to be afraid of evil attack.

He did not trust the arm of flesh which could have disappointed him (aumor of king saul)

He rejected Saul's armour because he had not proved it.

David trusted in the hand of the LORD.

David Letrhal as a warrior

He trusted God and was therefore certain of a victorious outcome of the battle.

He slew the bear and the lion with bare hands.

He put his hands in the hand of the LORD and knew he would also kill Goliath as he did to both the bear and the lion.

Sauls allows David

King Saul allows David because of David's confidence and fearlessness.

The king was convinced because of his past experince exceptional and good report.

King Saul believed the LORD would be with David as before.

Saul's Faith

Saul had faith.

Tthe source of faith was his own life experince in battle.

Saul knew that when God is on your side you would win all battles just like be smote the Amalek-ites.

David encouraged Saul through his testimony of how God had been with David in the past.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith?

David believed just as the Lord would deliver him out of the paw of the lion, and out of the paw of the bear, that He will deliver him out of the hand Goliath. David's faith was strong, he believed!

How lethal is David as a warrior?

1 Samuel 16:18 provides a composite description of David as he was summoned to the kings court. "Then answered one of the servants, and said, Behold, I have seen a son of Jesse the Bethlehemite, that is cunning in playing, and a mighty valiant man, and a man of war, and prudent in matters, and a comely person, and the LORD is with him."

This depiction inform us that David was courageous, had some combative experience, he used wisdom and the GREATEST element was that The Lord was with him. These factors allowed David to be effective.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

Saul was convinced by David, the exact reason why, I don't believe that we will know on this side of glory. Perhaps it was David's confidence, that he had faith; perhaps it was the manner of which David conveyed his faith' perhaps it was that no one else was willing.

Does Saul have faith?

Not sure. It had been forty days of testing, taunting the man were dismayed and greatly afraid. He had to make a decision, and so he did.

Did he have faith, not quite sure how to answer this question.

It could be said that he has faith through Daivd, that he believed the reports that he had received concerning David, and or what he gained from David. The Scriptures does not infer that he had faith to believe that God would deliever him if he took on the giant, he was a warrior / king. His fighting the Giant was not allowed nor ordained by God, it was through David that God would be glorified.

If so, what is the source of it?

The source of that decision came from being pressed to do so. The Scriptures do not infer that he sought the counsel of the Lord directly or indirectly. Of the choices he had, he chose to go with the most willing medium before him, David.

Pure speculation, David could be the source to inspire the people to fight as a whole regardless if he won or lost.

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David knew that God was with him and that God will not let him down. His faith in God was big and real. David was an accomplished warrior he has done battle with lions and bears to save his fathers sheeps. Saul a glispe of himself in David and he knew that God was with David and that through him he will have the victory that the Israelites needed. He knew that God was there. Saul was still God's chosen so he felt God's presence there with him and David. God's spirit still roam around Saul and David and kept some order in Israel.

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Q.) What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith?

A.) King Saul is impressed. How many of his own soldiers would challenge a lion or bear? Few! So he gives David his blessing: "Go, and the LORD be with you" (17: 37b).

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Q.) How lethal is David as a warrior?

A.) Consider David's experience. He has been a "mere" shepherd, but he has done mortal combat with both lions and bears. He is fearless! When his flock is attacked, he doesn't take the easy way out. He chases after the predator, confronts it, kills it, and rescues the sheep from its jaws.

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Q.) Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

A.) If David is struck down by Goliath -- as is certainly likely -- the worst that would happen would be that the Philistines would wage an attack. Their psychological advantage is minor -- the victory of a giant over a boy....But if David wins -- and Saul believes that David has a chance of doing just that -- the psychological advantage over the Philistines will be huge. It will be a shock that might very well determine the outcome of the ensuing battle.

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Q.) Does Saul have faith?

A.) Yes, Saul does have faith.

Q.) If so, what is the source of it?

A.) David has inspired spiritual faith in the king. David has pointed him toward the power of Yahweh.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith?

It shows that David's faith was entirely in His God's ability to do battle...he just had to "show up", and allow God to use him. It says that David had personal experience in God's faithfulness. His faith had been tried and tested, and he was unwavering in his belief that the Lord would bring victory...... again.

How lethal is David as a warrior?

VERY! He had courage, boldness, was not intimidated in the least by this huge, loud, prideful, boastful enemy, and the willingness to go into battle. David knew this was a "right" or "righteous" battle, so didn't waver. Most of all, his strength was not in his own abilities. He knew that he knew that he knew that his God would deliver him, and therefore, the nation from the Philistines.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

Saul was a coward and was too intimidated to act. He was desperate and David seemed like the only option. Perhaps David's faith inspired him to allow him to go forward. (Just as fear is contagious, so is faith!)

Does Saul have faith?

Saul had some faith, but not much personal relationship with the Lord....he had prophesied when the Holy Spirit came upon him when Samuel had anointed him with oil as King. He'd experienced victories, and his own failure when he feared what the people thought more than what the Lord had spoken to him to do, and admitted his sin and weakness.

If so, what is the source of it?

Apparently because of his awareness of his own weakness, he saw that David's trust was in his God, and not in his own strength...and on that basis allowed him to face Goliath on behalf of the nation.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

David believed that if God gave him victory in one situation, he would give me victory in any other. He believed in God's ability and faithfulness to come through for his people when they believed on Him.His faith was so strong and big and he always focused on God instead of his challenges. David was a strong warrior not because of his size but because of his faith. His faith gave him mental and physical strength.

Saul allows him to battle Goliath because he is moved and convinced by David's boldness. He also has no one else to fight the giant.Saul has faith in God but it is weak because instead of fight Goliath himself, he lets someone else do the job. His faith is partly is in his armor that is his human resources and not fully in God's power to deliver.

Faith is a real thing we need to exercise in our lives as we face daily giants of work, illness, fatigue,confusion,gossip,discouragement etc. Faith in God will embolden us to face these giants head-on and give us victory.We are more than victors in Christ. Life is about conquering mountans and obstacles but we can not do so in our own strenght but in the name of the Lord. To exercise faith is not just an emotional thing, we have to follow the emotion with action. we also have to speak out as David did. To remind ourselves and the devil how God has delivered us in the past.

We also have to share what God has does for us with others to encourage them and also give glory to God for what he has done. The faith of others can be strenghthened when they hear of our experiences.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37)

What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith?

How lethal is David as a warrior?

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath?

Does Saul have faith?

If so, what is the source of it?

David had combat experience and of course loads of faith. He felt he would win the battle with Goliath in the same way he had won against the lion and the bear. For he told Saul, “The LORD who delivered me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine.” So we see that David’s confidence did not come only from his ability, but rather from knowing that the battle was one in which God would be with him. David’s confidence was also boosted by the fact that Goliath had set himself against the living God (v 36). Saul understandably had doubts about David’s ability and the king tried to discourage him but having no other volunteer and perhaps seeing the determination of David, he gave David permission to face Goliath with the prayer “Go, and the LORD be with you (1 Sam 17 37). This reminds me of Psalm 118:6, “The LORD is with me; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?” We know Saul was a good warrior and he must have weighed up his options and realised he had nothing to lose by allowing David to fight Goliath. No I don’t think Saul had faith – he relied on his army’s own physical strength.

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David knew the strength and power of his God. He knew that trusting in him would bring deliverance from all challenges. And Goliath was not only a challenge but also an obstacle in Gods work. The men of Saul's kingdom where able to face lions and bears like David but the only difference between them both is that David relied on God for strength. The men as well as Saul viewed Goliath as something different than a lion or a bear. And with this view they brought on fear. When we begin to analize the situation and ponder on all that surrounds the battle field we bring on fear which blocks us from seeing God's grace around us. We forget that God has already sent his Spirit in front of us to fight the battle.

Saul made this mistake of forgetting the power and the strength God provides and allowed his flesh to get the best of him. David had all the strength and confidence provided by God to receive victory at war. Once Saul saw the determination David had to win the battle he was in some way reminded by the words David spoke of the God that he once served. And at that point realized David could do God's will and in turn receive the full victory and freedom from that huge challenge that was once in front of them.

Saul you can say had faith but not the strong faith that is completly rooted in God. The strong faith we all need to overcome our battles with our own Goliath. His faith would come by seeing David in action.

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

"Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear; this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, because he has defied the armies of the living God. 37 The LORD who delivered me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine."

David's explanation here of his combat experience also expresses his faith. He doesn't take great credit for his own victories. He credits the victory as God's victory.

He is a lethal warrior in that he is turning over the victory to God who can't lose!

Saul allowed David to go into battle for political reasons and for psychological reasons for the soldiers. It was not a faith issue for him but a battle strategy for the morale of the army.

I think Saul's faith was in worldly knowledge, not in God. He used David in that....but David's victory came at the hand of God and because of his faith in Him!

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith? How lethal is David as a warrior? Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Does Saul have faith? If so, what is the source of it?

That he know that he is not fighting in His on strength but in God

Very, the most dangerous warriors is the one on the side of the Lord. Who has God as his front and rear guard.

Everyone has to make that decision on whether they will trust God. For King Saul to try and prevent David would be a slap in God's face, to try and stop someone from laying their life down for the right of serving God

Yes, but not David like faith. King Saul faith would have been "seeing is believing faith. David is the substance of things......

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Q2. (1 Samuel 17:34-37) What does David’s explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David’s faith? He trusts the Lord to protect him in all situations.

How lethal is David as a warrior? He has never fought in a battle against man, but has killed strong beasts.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? This was Gods plan for David. How could Saul not let him go.

Does Saul have faith? Davids faith has impressed Saul, possibly reminded him of his own faith

If so, what is the source of it? God has touched Saul thru David.

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David explained his victory over the Loin and Bear. David knew that only God had given him victory over these huge and dangerous animals, and God would again give him victory over this gaint.

How lethal is David as a warrior? Deadly.

I think Saul was convinced after hearing David's combat experiences that he could defeat Goliath. I believe Saul faith in God and the source of his faith came from David's experience with killing the Loin and Bear.

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What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith? David assures Saul that he is capable of conquering this uncircumcised Philistine, because of his faith in God. David tells Saul about conquering the lion and bear when he kept his father's sheep. David stated “The Lord that delivered me out of the paw of the lion, and out of the paw the bear, he will deliver me out of the hand of this Philistine.” This showed faith that David trusted in the lord and believed that God would again deliver this Philistine (Goliath) to him. How lethal is David as a warrior? At this period in time remember David was anointed by Samuel by the instruction of God, so David has the lethal power of Holy Spirit with him. Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Saul saw some things in David and begins to believe in David and Saul said to David “ Go, and the Lord be with thee.” Does Saul have faith? Saul faith in God has become weak. He has not fully put his trust in God as you will continue to see in his future choices. What Saul does believe in is his power and in numbers in his army. The source Saul uses was David's Willingness to take on Goliath and knowing he had a strong faith in God.

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What does David's explanation to Saul of his combat experience say about David's faith?David explains how God had helped him fight the lion and the bear. They are dangerous animals to be fought with yet God helped David and kept him from all harm. David is testifying God's power ,and that God is able to resucue and deliver usfrom the most dangerous animals.

How lethal is David as a warrior? He is very lethal as a warrior. His faith in God had helped him win fights against dangerous animals,he has all the qualities of a true warrior,and that is why he is just not scared to face a huge giant like Goliath. Faith in God can help fight giants.

Why do you think Saul allows him to go out to battle Goliath? Saul probably now wants some one to fight this man Goliath. He and his army are around there 40 days and Saul was in need of a man with courage. Here is David who testifies to Him that how God delivered him and the courage David shows is tremendous. His powerful testimony of Gods power in his life made him send David to fight Goliath.

Does Saul have faith? Saul yes,knew his God. David instills courage in him and talks about his faith in God. This would have increased Saul's faith.

If so, what is the source of it?Saul believed more of Davids words and saw this young boy's determination and courage. Saul like most of us did not dare to believe that God would help him fight Goliath. When we are faced with huge giants of trouble its difficult to understand Gods power as we chose to see Goliath and not our God.

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