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Nathan is quick to give David approval to build the temple because he is aware of God's spiritual anointing upon David.

Nathan should have sought God's will first before giving David his blessing to build a temple.

The danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without waiting upon the Lord is, decisions are being made in the flesh.

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple?

Nathan is quick to give David approval to build the temple because he was convinced that David had God's approval since he was the anointed king and he was a person who feared and worshipped God with all of his heart.

What should have Nathan done instead?

Nathan should have sought God's direction for advising King David.

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord?

The danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord is not following the will of God in the matter.

David’s heart is partly right about building the temple though.

David’s heart is partly right about building the temple, he considered a place for the Ark of God, a place where God meets with them should be a place that is magnifcence and a place that represents him giving his best for God.

Which part does David have right?

David was right, God should be given our best; in all things.

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7)

Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple?

What should have Nathan done instead?

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord?

David’s heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

a. Nathan knew David was anointed by God and that David spoke with God.

So he "assumed" God was with David on building the temple for God.

b. Nathan should have waited on his answer for David until he had sought

councel from God himself. Nathan was to quick in giving David an answer

from the Lord.

c. If you act to quick you may not be doing the Lord's will. If you act without

asking the Lord's councel then you would be doing your will and it could result

in punishment,

d. I think David's part in the building of the temple was that David had drawn

up the plans for the Temple and he would supply the materials for the temple

to be build by soloman.

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple? What should have Nathan done instead?

Knowing that David was a true follower of the Lord, it is perhaps a normal reaction to agree with such a person when the subject of God is involved in a decision. But Nathan should have consulted with the Lord himself before giving any opinion to David.

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord.

It doesn't matter in truth, bur can cause some wasted energy, God's will is always done, no matter what human decisions are made.

David’s heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

Wanting to glorify the Lord is always right; but the building of a temple, the temple of David's career with God, this is very important, just like moving the Arc. So both David and Nathan should have sought the word of the Lord before starting any such task

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9a)Nathan knows that David seeks God’s will in his actions,hears from God & is aware of the spiritual anointing upon David, &says"Whatever you have in mind, go ahead and do it, for the LORD is with you" (7:3). implying follow what God is telling you.

b)Nathan gives approval too quickly,he should have enquired of the Lord first to see whether he aaproved of David’s plans.David was the wrong person to build the temple,he was not God’s choice;it was the wrong time for a temple to be built.God didn’t command David or any other leader to build a cedar temple as David proposed.This was David’s initiative based on what he felt was right,notwaiting on God for direction.

c)Danger of leaders pursuing directions without waiting upon the Lord,is that they allow man’s plans,based on fleshly feelings to be put above God’s

d)David’s heart was right in that he wantred to please God&fact that a temple was on God’s mind,just not yet. David was to be both architect&supplier of materials for Temple built by Solomen 966-965BC

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple? Because he spoke from the flesh and not the spirit

 

 

What should have Nathan done instead? He should have waited upon the Lord.

 

 

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord? They will be outside of God's will and may actually get in God's way which is always perfect.

 

 

David's heart is partlyright about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?  His heart is right. He loves the Lord and does not want the Lord in a tent while he is in a palace.

 

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Nathan is quick to give advice to move forward assuming that since God has been with David all along that God would be ok with it.

 

Nathan and David both should have asked God what to do.

 

 

To Nathan it seemed like God said yes to all of Davids requests when actually it was Gods instructions that David was following.

 

David's heart was in the right place, but so was Uzzah when he tried to keep the Ark from falling and then was struck dead for it.

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2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple? What should have Nathan done instead? What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord? David's heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

Nathan knows David is God's chosen king, so he assumes that God is directing David plans and encourages him to move forward. It is good that Nathan continues to seek God though because when he hears from God again, he relays the new information to David. David is correctly working toward building a temple, but his enthusiasm misleads him. He still needs to wait on God's timing. These actions are so typical of many of us who are anxious to accomplish our plans. We find ourselves in difficult circumstances because we seek our own way instead of God's.

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2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple? What should have Nathan done instead? What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord? David's heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

Nathan knows David is God's chosen king, so he assumes that God is directing David plans and encourages him to move forward. It is good that Nathan continues to seek God though because when he hears from God again, he relays the new information to David. David is correctly working toward building a temple, but his enthusiasm misleads him. He still needs to wait on God's timing. These actions are so typical of many of us who are anxious to accomplish our plans. We find ourselves in difficult circumstances because we seek our own way instead of God's.

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan  so quick to give David approval to build the temple? What should have Nathan done instead? What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord? David’s heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

Nathan tell David to go ahead with the temple because he feels that the Lord is with David.

Nathan should have first Contact it God praying and contemplating the question.

The leaders may get it wrong - it is possible, very possible for those who do not consider the Lord's option but they will get it wrong.

The question of building the Temple is one with many sides. David is correct in that he wants to honor God in to build the temple which is somewhat fitting for God. However, a temple is some lunch like an idol and often people will come to worship the temple rather than to worship God in the temple.

 

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1.Whi is Nathan too quick at giving David approval . Its because he knew how much David loves the Lord  , and how he would always inquire of God whenever he will go  to attack

2.What should have Nathan done?

He should inquired of the Lord first before giving his approval

3.What is danger of not 

Risk of taking  decisions out of God 's will which God do not  approve of 

5.Which part was David right?

That God do want the temple to be build

 

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Nathan knew that David had a good relationship with God that he wanted to impress him
David expresses his desire to Nathan to build a temple for the Lord. David is seeking God's will, and thus discusses it with God's spokesman, the prophet. And Nathan, well aware of the spiritual anointing upon David, says, "Whatever you have in mind, go ahead and do it, for the LORD is with you" 

He should have ask the Lord

Leaders and followers could make the wrong decisions

The Lord didn’t ask for the temple to be built. David wanted God to live in luxury like him
 

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7)

Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple?

What should have Nathan done instead?

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord?

David's heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

David had a deep desire to please God. This time he wanted to do so by building Him a House/Temple so the Ark of the Covenant could be placed in there.  Nathan was the one who dealt with the spiritual guidance at this stage.  David mentioned to Nathan what was on his heart.  Nathan knew that David's topmost desire was to please God and so he too saw nothing wrong with this idea,  and seemed to give David the go ahead from the spiritual side.  

Nathan should have brought the whole idea before the Lord as well before giving his approval  of the project.  

The danger is that a good idea is maybe the right idea for a wrong time and for the wrong person to fulfill the idea.  

David is right about the temple to be built but not about the time. 

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Nathan knew God had anointed David to be king without fully understanding the nature of that anointing. This story exposes two concepts of anointing – we are anointed either 1) for a particular assignment, or 2) because we have, or have been given, some sort of supernatural “essence.” The NT idea of gifting develops the idea of anointing in the OT. In the NT, people are gifted to preach, teach, prophecy, evangelize, etc just as in the OT people were anointed for tasks or roles.

In other words, if you see anointing as “essential,” a gifted person would have the ability to do certain things for the Lord irrespective of the particular situation or circumstance. Thus, once a prophet, always a prophet … once a king, always a king. Nathan is such an essentialist. To him, David’s anointing as king extended to whatever David did as king. David's anointing, then, was essential – it cut to David’s identity or person, that is, his essence. Possessing this view of anointing, when David suggested to Nathan that he build a home for the tabernacle, Nathan quickly assumed that this was an idea put in David by God because David had the essence/anointing of kingship with all the power and percs that go with it.

But there’s another view of anointing or gifting that is less essential than it is circumstantial. In this view, anointing/gifting is for a season or particular assignment. In this view, one's anointing may come and go, even change. Looking at anointing this way, David was anointed to win particular battles and set up a new government, but not to build the temple. The anointing to build a temple fell to another. Similarly, people today may be gifted to start a school, or speak truth to evil authorities or even win wars, but not to start a denomination or raise children, for example. Similarly, people may be anointed to serve quietly at home but not run for office – or vice versa.

 Nathan’s “essentialist” view of anointing led him down a false path. (In his defense, when he realized his thinking was wrong, he quickly backpedaled.) Not waiting on the Lord only exacerbated the situation but did not cause it – the main problem was that Nathan's thinking about anointing was wrong. Without changing how he looked at anointing, he could never find the truth. So God did this for him.

David was as responsible as Nathan for his misunderstanding of the situation. David didn’t wait. David didn’t bring his idea to the Lord quietly and slowly, as he had done in so many situations in his past. Instead, he blabbed his idea to Nathan, not to God. That was his big mistake.

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7)

Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple?

Nathan, was well aware of the spiritual anointing upon David.

What should have Nathan done instead?

Nathan was suppose to seek GOD's presence and will to hear what GOD wants to say. 

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord?

They speak in the flesh, that can have dangerous consequences.  

David's heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right?

David loves the Lord and want to be in HIS presence.

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Q1. (2 Samuel 7:1-7) Why is Nathan so quick to give David approval to build the temple? He knows he's God's anointed and has done many things with God's approval.

What should have Nathan done instead? Asked God on David's behalf before giving an answer.

What is the danger of leaders and followers too quickly approving major spiritual directions without really waiting upon the Lord? Their motives may not be as pure as they assume, or they may jump the gun and carry out a task God preserved for someone else.

David's heart is partly right about building the temple though. Which part does David have right? That it'll be built.

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