eggsandbacon Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 After reading Eze:9, I realize that the sealed 144 000 are protected. When God sends, to the earth, his wrath these chosen and sealed will not be effected. They will also show the unbelievers of that time that God is real because of thier testimony. They are Jews. Jews that believe that Jesus is the messiah and they believe it on mass. They preach it to the people in an untouched condition from the outpouring of Gods wrath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatherdills Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 We learn from 7:14 that God does not want to harm those whom he has chosen left on earth. This seal is supposed to protect the 144,000 from the judgements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ora Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 THE SEAL REPRESENT THE COMPLETENESS OF CHRIST BEFORE THE SEAL IS BROKEN; GIVING US ALL A CHANCE TO GET RIGHT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 We learn that God is very powerful, He has authority not just over the population, but to tell nature what to do, where to go. (ex. tell the wind to hold back) The seal was suppose to save the 144,000 people. They were the only ones who were grieving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liza Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 God protects His own. He will keep all His own safe. This reminds me so strongly of the Israelites who celebrated Passover in Egypt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda biloni Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 We learn that God is patient and merciful, right to the end. The seal protects them from the wrath of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 The seal is to protect the 144,000 from God's wrath . The seal provides spiritual protection against the power of satanic forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dparker777 Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Gods judgment is final & complete. He will protect his faithful children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 God is in command of all that happens. There is a plan and everything will occur in its correct time and order. God watches over each of those who are His, protectively. They are clearly identified - in this case by the seal on their foreheads. The seal marks out those Israelites, 144,000 in number, consisting of 12,000 from each tribe, who (have the mind of Christ?) weep in the spirit for the sins of the land, the abominable behaviour of mankind. These, then, will not be hurt when the rest of the people are slain for their ungodliness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo pinel Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 What do we learn about God? We see that God has a limit to His patience. Though He is longsuffering and gives many multiple opportunities to repent there comes a time when He will say, enough! Still, during the times of judgment He gives opportunity for repentance, and to those who love Him He will spare. - Look at Abraham's negotiation with God over the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah, as an example. In Ezekiel 9, He seals those people who abhorre the sins & wickedness occuring around them. These are the ones who still love the Lord their God. God spared them with a seal, painted on their foreheads. This mark would seal them against the judgment of God on jerusalem. The seal on the 144,000 will protect them against the "natural" desasters that will occur agaainst the Land & the sea. Many will be destroyed but not those sealed with the mark of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debora Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? 1. We learn that God uses position points, and helpers to get things done in His plan ...four angels standing at the four corners of the earth.... God has a stratedgy in his plan. 2. We learn that God is in control of the elements of nature and gives helpers power ...holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing.... 3. We learn God gives out authority and power to Jesus ...angel coming up from the east... (morning star), ...having the seal of the living God... is Jesus; Jesus in authority gives commands to the helpers and knows who He has purchased by His blood, who are God's servants ...Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God . 4. We learn that God has an allotment, those that will be spared ...144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. 5. We learn that God provides, protection and assurance, for those that are His. Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) The seal is to: - the seal protects those, that are God's servants, from His wrath that is upon the world to those that are not His servants - the seal grafts us onto the "one olive tree" which is the Church or God's people; the seal is to make us Church - the seal unites God's people with His Kingdom servants of the Spirit realm - the seal of God makes us stand firm in Christ, 2 Corinthians 1:21, He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. - the seal is to set a process in motion when received; the seal makes us the temple of our living God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and the effects of them dwelling in us causes psychological changes, repentance; we are being transformed and conformed into His image - the seal is to open our eyes, ears and reveal our God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit to our senses; the seal gives an awareness and assurance and allows things known to us, the truth, the Word in what it says of our salvation; a seal of blessed assurance - the seal is to allow us access to the threshold, gate, door to the heavenly realm and entrance to the place of the New Jerusalem; we are sealed in Christ Jesus where Jesus is the door to the throne of God and the Holy Spirit is the guide that takes us there; the Kingdom of God within us - the seal is to serve as an identity - the seal is a mark of distinction of whom are of God's Kingdom - the seal is to distinguish to God's helpers, angels, who is and who is not spared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelOnLine Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) What do we learn about God? We learn that God loves and protects those that love and follow Him. What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? They will be protected from God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnakds Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 The seal will protect God's people - spiritually. They will still face physical hardships and even death but thier spirits will be safe - they are not in danger of losing their protection from God for thier spiritual safebeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Ann Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 God is a living God. Also the seal - or mark - is to protect the 144000 from death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PressThrough Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) From Revelation 7:1-4 we learn that God seals his children of the tribes of Isrreal (those who love & follow Him), to protect them from impending doom reserved for the wicked. It is also apparent that God has a plan and is in control of carrying out the plan. He leads the way from the beginning to the end, and at all points in between & round about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisicia Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 1 Peter 4:17, For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? Are we teaching his sheep , Chapter by Chapter, Verse by Verse, Line by Line, Word by Word? (God has had enough) Ezek 9:3, And the glory of the God of Isarel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; (4) And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. What I learned about God, was in "The Books of the Bible", Genesis 1:1 through Revelation 22:21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skroehr Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? That He will not allow harm to come to his disciples. He is merciful and forgiving. Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? It is supposed to save them from the wrath. They are protected by sign and the word of God. They are the chosen. (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katzen Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 The seal will protect them from God's wrath. They will still face persecution, but no punishment from God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara1 Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 We learn that God is patient and lovivg. that He gives the world (people) to ride the world of corruption. We also learn that God has a timetable of his own and that he will punish those that remain in that corruption. The seal is protection against the wrath of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenista Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) Just as Moses was a bond-servant of God, the 144,000 represent the bond servants who are sealed and protected. They are believers - not chosen, but believers. The seal represents protection, those with the seal receive mercy by grace. Those without the seal are without pity and are utterly slayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisicia Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 REVELATION Chapter 18 "Judgment of Babylon" Chapter eighteen is literal in telling us the course of events that will take place during the destruction of that one world religious system called Mystery Babylon. This destruction will be just the opposite of what we read of in chapter seventeen, where everything is stated in symbols. In this chapter, it is literal, in the sense that you can use it as an analogy; that is for the inference that if two or more things agree in some respects, then they will probably agree in others. In this way we will see that the "city of confusion", or "Babylon" will become a reality. Today we can literally see this city formed and in existence, and amongst our Christian people. Revelation 18:1 "And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power [authority]; and the earth was lightened with his glory." This angel came from heaven, from God, and also has the power and the authority to bring these things to pass. The glory of God is shown from Him. Revelation 18:2 "And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Bab'-y-lon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." The voice of this angel wasn't wimpish in tone, but a strong voice of authority. When he spoke, he said that this great city [or state] of confusion is falling both morally, and physically. Why is it falling? It is inhabited by demons, and devils, and every foul thing; filthy, immoral, hateful, and deceitful. We are well under way to turn our entire nation into this city of confusion. We saw in Revelation 9, that when the locust army [satan' fallen angels] arrives on earth, they will cause the earth to be totally saturated with godless immorality. They will leave the earth a wilderness for it's lack of truth, and respect for God's Word. Satan's kids, the Kenites, are now twisting God's people into such confusion, most Christians simply don't know right from wrong or truth from a lie. Demon habitation is now on earth, and they are housed in the Kenites, and those who allow and invite demonics into them. This is done through channeling, astrology, and many other forms. Many times Christians flirt with demonic forms as a game, or in question, and become hooked. This is not the time to allow your mind to play around with these demons. Christians should be getting themselves ready for the real spiritual battle that they will be facing very shortly, The loss in that battle is your very soul. Demons, as well as these Kenites, use mind set, and mind control. The only control of the Christian mind should be by the Holy Spirit. Revelation 18:3 "For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies [by the power of her wantonness]." These demon infested people, along with the Kenites, dress themselves up today in their righteous robes, and make themselves smell as the fragrance of the spring flowers. They will also be transformed [disguised] as angels of light. They will be concerned for the little ones, the children, as they move to form Satan's final church. God's own children will be drawn in to them, because of the confusion taught in most all churches of today. Most pastors today simply do not know God's Word, or His plan for this age. All nations in this world will take part in this confusion, and moral pollution is taking place now. The ten kings, or authorities [agencies] will also commit the moral and spiritual fornication, along with this "City of confusion" [babylon]. The one world system [united Nations], and the merchants of the earth are going to become very rich over supplying this Babylon church with her robes, her jewelry, her idols, and places of worship. The big thing in industry will not be guns, but trinkets for the one world religious system. Satan will come in peacefully and prosperously [Daniel 8:23-25], and he will preach the finest sermon most Christians have ever heard, so they will think [but it will be lies]. Satan is good at putting out the sweet talk, and though it sounds good, it will be a damnable twisted perverted lie. Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." This is a warning direct from God through this mighty angel. "You come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins." The plagues will follow after this warning, and if you are with her, you will receive the plagues also, for God is warning you; and they will come. Revelation 18:5 "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." The tower of the sins in this end generation, will be worse that the tower of Babel of Genesis 11, and God is about to destroy her, not scatter it. The tower of Babel was built also to draw the entire world together in one mind. Through that ancient tower, man tried to reach God, and be as God was, they thought. Today the tower now forming called the city of Babel will also be of one mind, and the singleness of this one mind is bringing about confusion. The sins of the people, and their hardness of heart are reaching into heaven, and God will remember every last one of them. Revelation 18:6 "Reward [Render unto] her even as she rewarded [rendered] you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double." When you take Satan's number, 6-6-6 [that of the Kenites], and double it you have 1,332. This is when Satan and his followers get their reward. However, Daniel talks about the 1,335 days when those who wait upon the Lord get their rewards. This is three days more of waiting upon the Lord. Remember the two witnesses, and the three and one half days in wait, laying dead in the street in Jerusalem? It's just a thought, but don't be caught celebrating to quickly; for it might be for the wrong cause. Don't receive your blessing one day short, because it will be the blessing Satan is passing out upon those that claim him to be God [the Abomination of desolation]. Daniel 12:12 "Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days." Revelation 18:7 "How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously [waxed wanton], so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow." God's bride is the queen, and Israel is also a queen. We are a widow for Christ, our husband died; and we will not be a Queen again until the True Christ returns. That is what is meant by this verse. If you sit a queen, and your husband [the false Christ] sits there with you, then you are married to the wrong husband. Then upon Jesus Christ's return to earth at the sounding of the seventh trumpet, you will then not be regarded as a queen, but a whore, if you now declare yourself to be a Christian At that time you will be "with [satan's] child", and not the virgin bride that our Lord expects to find upon His return. You better not be one of these claiming to be a queen. Revelation 18:8 "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine, and she shall utterly burn with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her." In "one day", the "day of the Lord" is at the last trumpet and all those in Satan's camp will wake up to see they are married to the wrong man, spiritually speaking. The "fire" that consumes them is a spiritual fire, filled with shame and disgrace. It is a "spiritual fire", for on that day they will all be changed into their spiritual bodies. They gave the garment of their works over to their husband, Satan the false Christ, and now they stand naked as a Jay-bird before Christ, on that day. They were untrue to the Son of the Living God. This change from flesh to the spiritual body is discussed by the Apostle Paul in I Corinthians 15:50-54. Revelation 18:9 "And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously [wantonly] with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning," As this "city of confusion" goes up in smoke, the reality of what they have done will set into their minds. Then all people will see clearly what damage has been done; that they have been lied to and deceived by Satan and his religious system. It will be a sad day for the deceived Christians. When you think of those elderly people who sat in their churches all their lives, just wanting to serve and see Jesus; what a heart break it will be for them to wake up and find that they have been deceived all along. They were taught that you don't have to know the whole Bible, just believe. They listened and believed when the pastor told them, Revelation doesn't apply to you, for you will fly out of here. Most of the pastors will lead their flocks right into Satan's camp in ignorance, thinking he is the Messiah, and not knowing any difference between the true Christ and the fake Christ. When they do, they will have lost it all. There will be no grace extended to them from this flesh age for those who worship the Antichrist. They will stand in shame and nakedness before our Lord Jesus Christ, and what a pity that they have been trapped in deception.. Revelation 18:10 "Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come." The final battles of this earth age will be quick and more than likely, take less than an hour. The battles will take place in two locations; The battle of Armageddon to be at Meddigo [the gathering place of the crowd in Jerusalem], and the battle of Hammon-Gog [see Ezekiel 38 and 39], which I believe will be in the Christian nations. It is only the wicked that God will consume in these battles. Many use II Peter 3 to show how "all the world will burn"; however, in the proper translation we read, it is "all the evil rudiments [elements]" that shall burn. Remember this is a spiritual struggle. God's children who do not bow to Satan, or take his name, or number are not part of the evil rudiments of this earth, and will not burn. They are the pure bride of Christ. Revelation 18:11 "And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:" These merchant's products were the sweet, religious trinkets, and robes of Satan's world wide religious system. No man will ever buy or need any of Satan's religious order again, for Jesus Christ will be on the earth, and His kingdom will be without end. Revelation 18:12 "The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble," Notice that all these items go to make up the royalty of Satan's world wide religious order. They make up the fineries for the leaders, and priests, and for the offerings, and the many structures necessary to worship Satan, as he wishes to be worshipped. Satan's church, and entire religious system will be impressive to the ordinary man, but to God's elect it will be a cheap imitation of the real thing. Revelation 18:13 "And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men." Satan's sole mission is capturing the souls of men and women, boys and girls. Satan will offer you anything your heart desires to tie you to his system. If you are not sealed in your mind [forehead] that the first christ is Satan, you will sell your soul cheap to him in ignorance, for you will think he is Jesus Christ. Satan will own the world, for God will have given it to him, to use it to deceive all the peoples of the world. Satan will and can offer you anything, and he deliver it just to buy your soul. In fact the only price he requires payment in full, is your soul. Revelation 18:14 "And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all." Your fruits are what you reap from what you have planted, and the fruit then comes from the stems of your plantings. In the time of Satan's one world religious system, there will be no fruit yielded, and all ripe fruit will be harvested with a cycle [not picked], and piled to burn. Remember in the parable of the fig tree, that tree that Jesus cursed had no fruit, but only leaves. Ripe fruit must be harvested in season. Why? All those who will make a stand against Satan and his religious system are already sealed. Those without the seal, which is the understanding of God's Word [the Bible] will have taken Satan's [the Antichrist's] "Mark of the Beast", his name and his number. Like we were told by Joel the prophet, the world will be like a wilderness, barren for the truth of God's word. There will not be a harvest, because the "seed lay in the barns [churches], and had not been planted". The pastures will become a wilderness, because there is no one in them feeding. The only word that will be taught, or even spoken aloud in the days of the Antichrist's religious order, will be the words of the Antichrist's religion. It will be accepted as the truth, because it will sound like the truth, and backed up by Satan's [the Antichrist's] many miracles, wonders, and deceptions. The Christians who do not know God's Word, simply will not believe the true man of God in that day, and if that is you, they will think you to be insane. When the religious system of the Antichrist is in place, we can not plant seed anymore, thus we are told by Jesus to think not ahead of time what we will say, but to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through us [Mark 13:9-11]. Mark 13:9 "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony against them." Mark 13:10 "And the gospel must first be published among all nations." Mark 13:11 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Spirit." The two people, which are the two witnesses, who do speak out will be given special powers by God to stand directly against Satan and the people of the world, and they will use those powers against Satan [the Antichrist], and his system. This is why they will be hated. When Satan rises up and kills these two witnesses, at the appointed time, the end of Satan's "city of Babylon [confusion]", it will fall. Because Babylon [the Antichrist's world wide religious system] is fallen, all things that were part of it will never be again. Ever! In this one hour the entire system is shown for the filth it is, and destroyed. Revelation 18:15 "The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing," The things of this earth age of the flesh is all gone. The entire religious system, and all that belonged to it [it's evil rudiments] are destroyed in one hour. They risked their entire lives and business on a five months period [Revelation 9:5, 10], and lost it all in one hour. In II Peter 3:10, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements [evil rudiments in the Greek text] shall melt with fervent heat, the earth [age] also and the works [evil works] that are therein shall be burned up." Friend, God is the consuming fire that will do this, as we read in Hebrews 12:29. Revelation 18:16 "And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!" Revelation 18:17 "For in one hour so great riches is come to naught. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood a far off," Remember, the "sea" are the "peoples of the world", and these sailors and their ships are those who dealt in the merchandising in goods and souls in the Antichrist's religious system. The Kenites are the main suppliers, they will fill the wants of the religious system then, as they are doing today. Revelation 18:18 "And cried when they saw the smoke of their burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!" They mourned as the clouds of deception arose and cleared away, and the truth was revealed, and the reality of the end of their godless system came into sight. Their time of cheating, and being the thieving bunch of bandits that they have been sense the ancient days are over. Revelation 18:19 "And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour she is made desolate." Upon the day of the Lord, at the seventh trumpet, in that one hour all confusion, lies, and exactly who is behind them, will be revealed. The truth will not only be revealed, but all the evil rudiments that went to make it up will also be destroyed. And immediately, "in the wink of an eye," all souls will be changed from these flesh bodies into their spiritual bodies, and the Kingdom of Jesus Christ will begin. We will be in the new millennium age. It will be a time of great rejoicing for the saints of God, and those of the bride of Christ. However, to all those who were taken in and deceived by Antichrist, and took his name, and number [the Mark of the beast]; it will be a time of great shame; of weeping and much sorrow. The tears are for the lost Satanic system that they sold themselves into. Revelation 18:20 "Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles [saints] and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her." On that day, the "day of the Lord", God will avenge all the wrong that was done in this earth age. Even to the death of the prophets of old, that were killed by the Jewish "Kenite" religious leaders. He will also avenge all those who wronged you. This is why Jesus asks you to wait until this day to settle all accounts. All wrongs will be made right. In Romans 12:19 Jesus tells us through the apostle Paul, "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written [in Deuteronomy 32:35], Vengence is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." Revelation 18:21 "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Bab'-y-lon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." It is at this time that Jerusalem will be totally destroyed, and all parts of that religious system gone forever. This will start a New city of Jerusalem; with a new temple, and Jesus Christ will rule His kingdom from there. Not one stone will be left standing of the old temple, upon each other, but all will be thrown down and swept clean. This will be the "New Jerusalem" of the Millennium age of Ezekiel 40-48, where we will serve Jesus Christ out of. Do you see why you will not see Jesus Christ while you are still living in your flesh body? At the sounding of the seventh and last trump, every thing in and of this earth age will be done away with, and you will be in another dimension. Your body will be changed instantly into its eternal body, and this earth age of the flesh will be finished forever. Any person coming to you claiming to be Christ while you are in your flesh body, while grandma is in the nursing home, and the hospital is down there on the corner, is a fraud, a cheat and a liar. When Jesus Christ returns that "great city of Babylon" and all that is part of it is gone forever. Revelation 18:22 "And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;" There will be no musicians, no craftsman, or builders of any kind: no doctors or shop keepers in that Millennium kingdom for the things that are needed to fill the needs and desires of this flesh body are over. There will be no flesh bodies anywhere, anymore. We will see the wonderful conditions that shall exist in the twenty first and twenty second chapters. Revelation 18:23 "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." No part of that system will exist any more. This millstone is used to work over God's people, and it and those taking part in it will be gone; removed. Revelation 18:24 "And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." This satanic system started with Satan and Eve in the Garden of Eden. From that "beguiling" [being wholly seduced, sexually; from the Greek text], came the race of satanic hybrids, called "the Kenites". These children have hid themselves, by mixing with other races, and in the case of God's children, blending themselves in with the Israelites. When they tried to hide themselves, the Prophets and Apostles would identify them through their blood line [ancestry]. This is the main reason for their killing of the prophets, apostles, and even Jesus Christ. And they force the blame of their murdering acts on our brother Judah. This is even possible in most churches today, because very few Christians have taken the time to learn that lesson Jesus told us to learn in Mathew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. That lesson being "the parable of the Fig tree". It is from this parable that we discover the good figs, brother Judah [Jews], from the bad figs, the Kenites ["that do lie, and call themselves Jews"]. If you do not know this parable there is no way you can be "sealed in your mind" against the Antichrist. For it is the Kenites that have, and will pervert all doctrine, and that false doctrine will cause you to take the Antichrist's "Mark of the Beast". That mark is taken in your "forehead [your mind], and in your "right hand". The mark is your thinking as the Kenites want you to think, and doing the work. A "right hand" man is to do what the one over you wants you to do. These Kenites are the children of "Cain", from which their name comes. See Strong's Hebrew Dictionary # 7014, ""Qayin, kah'-yin; Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an oriental tribe: -Cain, Kenite(s)." These Kenites took over the scribe duties, of translating God's holy word, which is recorded in I Chronicles 2:55. Ezra 2:43-65 records how the Levites were not around when the temple and the altar of God was rebuilt. It was the Kenites [Nethinims] that had taken over the duties of the scribes and priests. This is what is hid from the Church of today, most cannot tell brother Judah [Jew] from the fake, and this is why the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia were acceptable to God; they knew who these Kenites were. Revelation 2:9 "I know thy works; and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." It is the offspring of these Kenites, the same ones who killed the prophets, and Jesus Christ, that are doing the same as they always have, and they are committed to Satan their father as he is. They are changing and twisting God's Word to make the whole world to believe a lie. God's elect, and the 144,000 of Israel [all of the tribes] will be the only ones that can see through the deception. God will turn the rest of the people over to Satan at this time. Revelation may have been a mystery to you in the past, but it's high time to get into it with the proper tools, and see what God is saying to His church, [His elect]. If you wait until the Antichrist has arrived, it will be to late, because it is God that will blind your eyes from the truth then. God has fully prepared and written His plan in His Word, and you are going to be responsible for your actions of either following the Antichrist, the first christ to come; or waiting for the true Christ. The rewards are great for them that wait on the Lord. The Shepherds Chapel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) We learn that God will protect His children by putting a seal on our foreheads which will differentiate us from the non believers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sister Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 God said to hurt not the earth, sea or trees, til we have sealed the servants of God in their foreheads. The ones sealed were the l44,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel, 12,000 from each of the tribes. Ezekiel 9: The seal is a protection, a mark of identification from God, setting the marked ones apart for their protection. The commentary in my bible says the mark is the Hebrew Taw. The is the final letter of the Hebrew alphabet which took the form of a cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Rupert Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) THE SEAL IS TO PROTECT THEM. GOD PROTECTS HIS PEOPLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlenereeves Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Q3. (Revelation 7:1-4) There's disagreement about exactly who the 144,000 represent. Let's not debate that, but look deeper. From 7:1-4 what do we learn about God? Read Ezekiel 9, then answer: What is this seal supposed to do for the 144,000? (Please wait to consider 14:1-5 until we get there, okay?) Jesus will come again for his church. He can be a lamb or a lion when the situations call for it. I know only Jesus can break the plagues. The seal is debatable but it will cover the people of God during the plagues and tribulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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