Q5. Love and Wrath

[Rosesam]

Q5. (John 3:36) Is it possible to believe in God’s love and God’s wrath at the same time? How does God’s justice allow salvation, when what we deserve is punishment for our sin and unbelief? (Hint: the “substitutionary atonement.”

God’s love and God’s wrath are like two sides of the same coin. He loves us with a agape love. Although He delights in forgiveness, His grace cannot nullify His justice. Those who refuse to repent are responsible before the Holy God. In a judicial context it takes on the meaning “to be guilty” before the Holy God. Because God is holy and just as well as loving and forgiving, the unrepentant will face the most serious consequence of their sin and rebellion.

It is His love for the mankind and because His justice has to be met, that Jesus became the propitiation for our sins. The righteous indignation that God has on sin was hurled on Jesus on the cross. Jesus absorbed all the punishment for our sins, and gave us His eternal life in exchange. Thus because of His substitutionary atonement, His justice was met, and His love for us paved way for us to be reconciled back to Him.

[Paula Price]

All things are made possible through Christ.  It is necessary to believe in God's wrath as well as His mercy. If you believe in God you have to believe in every word He speaks. He says that there is wrath for those who chose not to obey his commandments and He has shown His wrath throughout the old scriptures, the old testament. He proved His love by sending his son Jesus to die for our sins, even though we do not deserve it.  His grace and mercy is a gift to us.  It is how we are able to be forgiven of our sins.  When man chooses to believe in Jesus and confess our sins, repent, be baptized and walk in holiness and righteous, we are forgiven and there is no wrath for us.

[theoldveteran]

On 8/7/2014 at 2:21 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q5. (John 3:36) Is it possible to believe in God’s love and God’s wrath at the same time? How does God’s justice allow salvation, when what we deserve is punishment for our sin and unbelief? (Hint: the “substitutionary atonement.”)

(1) Yes, His love and his judgement (wrath) must both come into play at the same time and the same intensity.

(2) "God's desire is for us to believe and have eternal life, but since He is a "just" God, our end without Christ is judgement".( quote from the notes)   Consider the story of the child playing with matches, his mother tells him that if he continues he'll get burned and then his mother will punish him.  The child continues and is burned and starts crying.  His mother, forgets her warning of punishment and loves the child and treats his burn and forsakes the spanking.  God can't do that, His justice must come into play along with His love.  So God, even though He still loves the child and will care for his wound,  His wrath will still come into play as He punishes the child for disobeying Him.  Just like King David, even though David sinned with Bathsheba, and lost the child of their adultery, David confessed, and God forgave him and still calls David the "apple of His eye"----------David still payed dearly for his sin, with one of his sons raping one of his daughters and the rapist was murdered by another of his sons, and his favorite son, Absolom tried to overthrow his throne was killed in the insurrection.  David paid dearly but he was still forgiven and restored as king of Israel.

[Jonathan Edwards]

Yes !  God's justice and mercy can be accepted.  The Ark of the Covenant is the prime example.  The Mercy seat sprinkled with blood covered sins when the High Priest came into the Holy of Holies.  Without the blood, the High Priest would die due to not following proper rubrics as laid down in the Book of Leviticus.  Aaron's two sons Nadab and Abihu were punished severely for offering a false fire.   But to God be the glory judgment as come into the world ....Christ Jesus the Logos, verily God from verily God and only begotten Son of God is full of mercy.  Light from Light + begotten not made !   Mercy outweighs the wrath of God!   

[Daniel R]

1. Is it possible to believe in God's love and God's wrath at the same time?

Yet, it is very possible to believe in both God's love and in His wrath at the same time, because He is love, and He is just and fair, and it's His justness and fairness that lead to His RIGHTFUL judgement, punishment, and wrath!

2. How does God's justice allow salvation, when what we deserve is punishment for our sin and unbelief?

God's justice allows salvation, even though we deserve to be punished for our sins, through the death of Jesus Christ. When Jesus died, He took God's wrath and punishment that was set on us and instead, He put it on Himself when He died, so whoever believes in Him and accepts and receives the price that He paid on our behalf, he or she will not experience that judgement, punishment, and wrath, because Jesus experienced it for us ahead of time!!!

 

THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!!! 

[Irmela]

(John 3:36)

Is it possible to believe in God's love and God's wrath at the same time?

How does God's justice allow salvation, when what we deserve is punishment for our sin and unbelief? (Hint: the "substitutionary atonement.")

Yes. 

God is a just God. 

Sin needs to be punished. Christ took that punishment on my behalf. (Thank You, dear Lord). So punishment for sin has been metered out. The price has been paid. I have received SALVATION, full and free. 

HALLELUJAH!!!!