Q3. Receiving the Kingdom

[Frangena]

Q 3.

• This truth is most precious to God's people during their persecutions, oppressive regimes and when they are tortured by worldly rulers because they give them hope and encourage them to stay rooted in their believe in God's power and authority.

 

• I expect the ultimate fulfilment to be when our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ comes again as the righteous judge.

[Stanley Tavaziva]

Q3. (Daniel 7:18, 22, 27) Three times the angel assures Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, and 27). In what circumstances is this truth most precious to God's people? Though there may have been partial fulfillments, when do you expect the ultimate fulfillment?

 

The “holy people of the Most High” are the true Israel, the people ruled by the Messiah. Jesus Christ gave the Kingdom to the new Israel, his church, made up of all faithful believers. His coming ushered in the Kingdom of God, and all believers are its citizens (see also. Although God may allow persecution to continue for a while, the destiny of us his followers is to possess the Kingdom and be with him forever.

 

Belshazzar condemned for three things. 1. He acted irreverently toward YHWH. 2 He desecrated YHWH’s name by using the holy vessels from the temple in Jerusalem for a drunken party. 3. He praised man-made idols instead of YHWH.

 

There were also 10 toes in Nebuchadnezzar’s vision. While all do not agree concerning the identity of the10 kings, we are reminded in Revelation 17:12-14 that these kings will make war against Christ, but, as the King of kings, he will conquer them. The other king mentioned here in verse is the future man of lawlessness of 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.

[Old Jerry]

The circumstance that this truth is most precious to God’s people is the return of Jesus Christ. This is when he will return and take control of the earth. I expect the ultimate fulfillment to be when the new earth is created.

[linda bass]

Three times the angel assured Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever.

This truth is most precious to God's people during times of severe persecution and hardship.

I expect the ultimate fulfillment of this prophecy to take place when Jesus returns to earth to destroy His enemies and set up His eternal kingdom.

[Moises Percu]

Three times the angel assures Daniel that “the saints of the Most High” will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, and 27). In what circumstances is this truth most precious to God’s people? Though there may have been partial fulfillments, when do you expect the ultimate fulfillment?         

 

It is the guarantee of our final redemption. The saints suffered, were persecuted, died for the sake of Jesus, but, at the end of times, when the 70th week is finished, the Son of Man will return to stablish His Kingdom and the saints will live the complete fulfillment of the prophesy. 

[nancyann]

This is a truth that is not only promised to God's people in Daniel but in other parts of the Bible and also in the New Testament by Jesus.  It is the hope and faith that we as Christians stand on adn believe.

 

I think the altimate fulfilment is the second coming of Jesus.  This is a time when we will go to be with Jesus and God.  So we believe in faith and know that God is true to His word.

[elizabeth kerr]

I think that God's assurance to Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" would in the end receive the Kingdom of God and possess it forever has been, is, and will be most precious to God's people when those who know the Scriptures and are trusting God to do as He says are persecuted by nonbelievers.

***Since those who trust God must also know the Scriptures in order to know about God's promises and receive comfort and encouragement from them, this passage and the others like it should impel us to study the Bible intensively and extensively and to meditate much on its teachings.

 

I think this promise, whether to the angels who are faithful to God or to the people who truly believe in Him, will be fulfilled after Jesus comes again and defeats God's and Israel's enemies and establishes the millennial kingdom for Israel.

 

I mostly agree with Mr. Wilson's understanding of the four beasts in Daniel's vision.  Since the original Roman Empire no longer exists,  it must be revived and occupy all its original territories again.  A look at a map of the former Roman Empire shows that most of its territories are now countries that have Muslim-majority populations and governmnets founded on Islamic law.  With the past and current influxes of refugees and migrants from Muslim countries into Europe and the much higher birth rate of the Muslims in the European countries, the rest of the countries in the former Roman Empire have rapidly growing Muslim populations that may (will?) outnumber and overwhelm the nonMuslims sufficiently to force changes in their governments from secular to Muslim.  So, even if the fourth beast is the Revived Roman Empire,  it will be Muslim, not secular, Christian, or Catholic, even if its capital is in Rome.

 

Another reason I think the Revived Roman Empire will be Muslim is that the fourth beast in the vision "crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left" (Daniel 7:7).  The original Roman Empire did not crush and destroy its enemies unless they repeatedly rebelled like Israel did.  If the conquered population obeyed Roman laws and didn't rebel, the original Roman Empire governments let them live pretty much as they wished.  But as the Muslims expanded their control from Arabia in Mohammad's lifetime to include the entire Middle East, large parts of Central and South Asia, the northern half of Africa, and southern Europe, they completely destroyed the cultures and social structures of the peoples they conquered and imposed Islam and the Arabic language and Arab culture on the survivors.  They were just like the Islamic State, Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, and their partners today.  Today's Muslim "conquerors" crush and devour those they conquer and trample underfoot those who survive; they kill them or enslave them.

 

 

I thank the God of Israel, the one and only true God, that He will judge everyone and punish those who reject Him to do evil.  They will suffer eternal torment while those who believe in Jesus are in God's kingdom in heaven and rejoice to see God triumph over those who persecute us.

[Lionwolf]

Q3. (Daniel 7:18, 22, 27) Three times the angel assures Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, and 27). In what circumstances is this truth most precious to God's people? Though there may have been partial fulfillments, when do you expect the ultimate fulfillment?

This truth is most precious to us during times of persecution and suffering. There is no way to know when we will see ultimate fulfillment.

 

[Clelie]

Question 3
The kingdom of satan represented by Rome is fighting against the power of the most high God. The power of the evil one is doing its best to fight the kingdom of God to be established on earth 

Today as New Testament people we are living and experiencing the evil schemes of the anti christs to destroy the people of God but Jesus has already defeated  its power on the cross of Calvary for those who are in Him and soon He’ll come back to definitely put an end to that evil power and freed His people from its dominion . This will happen soon as  we see  the signs of time of His coming  in our days .  He has set the sign of  time according to His  revelation to Apostle John . Maranatha ! 

Then the Lord and His people will reign on earth for ever and ever. Amen ! 

[Krissi]

God's sense of time is certainly longer than mine!  These prophecies, though they looked forward to empires that didn't yet exist, seem long-ago to me -- ancient history -- and so, their fulfillment has already come to pass mostly or partially. 

At times of pain, persecution, injustice, war and corruption, the idea that the "good guys" win in the end is very appealing as well as comforting. But, it is the case that we cannot expect this to happen in our lives. Evil exists. Wars kill us. Corrupt and disgusting political leaders send Christians to war as "cannon fodder." And where is God in all this? Is this part of His plan?

During a war, we shouldn't expect God to bring about the eschaton or deliver us, for many Christians have died in war and, perhaps, millions more will die. So, how can we pray for personal deliverance when God's timing and plan is so greater than ours?

In a way, this explains unanswered prayers. I doubt that the men in foxholes during WWI, for example, were not praying as they faced probable death. I probably shouldn't write this, but I wonder if God, in HIs big-picture way, regards our individual lives as insignificant/expendable compared to his larger plans? Yes, of course, God loves us individually, but He also lets us die of disease or in war, to give two examples. We fit into His plans -- He does not fit into our plans. His plans are all-encompassing -- ours are centered on our own lives, circumstances and times. God is working toward the ultimate fulfillment of His plan -- we have our tiny roles to play, and then we die.

I don't know the balance between His plans for the universe and His tiny plans for my own life. Somehow, His bigger plans get fulfilled as my tiny plans may -- or may not -- come to pass.