Q1. Baptized, Filled, Received

[KenBoy]

On 7/23/2018 at 12:24 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q1. (Acts 2) What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history? What word analogies are used to describe this phenomenon? Are these word analogies essentially used synonymously with others in Acts 2? What did the Jews from foreign lands hear and see? How did Peter interpret what they heard and saw? (Acts 2:14-21)

At Pentacost ,the PROMISE of the baptism by immersion with Holy Spirit was fulfilled.Something like tongues of fire rested on them and they began to speak in other languages (tongues)

This event was unique in a number of ways :

• It was spontaneous. 
• What looked like flames of fire rested on the disciples and they spoke in a number of known languages. (Separately or in unison?)
• The sound of a mighty rushing wind was heard by many people
• This was a completely new thing.  A new age of grace commenced.
• The gospel was preached
• The church was born, 3000 people were baptized.
• The gift of the Holy Spirit was offered to the hearers of Peter’s message.
• People were added daily to the church

Unique as -

 Six words are used synonymously Baptize (Acts 1:5),  Come upon (Acts 1:8),   Filled (Acts 2:4),  Pour out (Acts 2:17-18, 33),  Receive a gift (Acts 2:38),   Promise (Acts 2:39, cf. 2:33);  these six words describe what happened at Pentecost to those who waited upon the LORD faithfully and received the Holy Spirit.

"Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.                                                 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off -- for all whom the Lord our God will call." (Acts 2:38-39)

 Jews from foreign lands heard the sound of language in their own mother tongue  and wind .They saw the tongues of fire resting on those baptized. They heard the sound like that of the rushing violent wind or tempest. 

Peter explained that this was the culmination of PROMISE - Joel 2:28-32 being fulfilled in their seeing and hearing... That no longer was it necessary to have a priest or intermediary in order to be in relationship with God because He would be living in them.

It is clear that at Pentecost a message - the message- was being preached, but there was no interpreter. That leaves us with two possibilities. The first is that the disciples were speaking in different languages, and, as there are more than twelve locations mentioned, switching between them. The other is that on this unique occasion the Holy Spirit conferred, temporarily, the gift of interpretation on all the hearers, so whatever language or languages the disciples spoke, the hearer heard in his own tongue. 

When Cornelius and his household came under the power of the Spirit, there was no need for an interpreter, as they were praising and worshipping, and the main reason was to witness to Peter, ans thence the Jews, that God had accepted the Gentiles in Jesus the Christ.

[Old Jerry]

The thing that happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in the previous history is that the believers were filled with the Holy Spirit. The word analogies that were used to describe this phenomenon was they were filled with the Holy Spirit after the wind filled the house where they were setting and then a divided tongues, as of fire and one sat upon them. These words were synonymously used with others in Acts 2. The Jews from foreign lands heard the speaker talking in their language. Peter interpreted what they heard and saw by quoting the prophet Joel.

[haar]

Q1. (Acts 2)

Q. What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history?

A. The Holy Spirit came upon the believers (the disciples) and they spoke in tongues

Q. What word analogies are used to describe this phenomenon?

A. Some of the word analogy are 'filled with the Holy Spirit' ; 'the Holy Spirit came upon ; or the Holy Spirit was poured  on them

Q. Are these word analogies essentially used synonymously with others in Acts 2? What did the Jews from foreign lands hear and see?

A. Yes. They heard them speaking in the languages they (the Jews from foreign land) also speak

Q. How did Peter interpret what they heard and saw? (Acts 2:14-21)

A. That what they were hearing was in line with what Jesus Christ promised would happened when the Holy Spirit had been poured upon the disciples as promised.

 

[Isaac L]

On 7/24/2018 at 1:24 AM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q1. (Acts 2) What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history? What word analogies are used to describe this phenomenon? Are these word analogies essentially used synonymously with others in Acts 2? What did the Jews from foreign lands hear and see? How did Peter interpret what they heard and saw? (Acts 2:14-21)

It was a baptism or a filling of the Spirit, that John the Baptist had prophesied and that Jesus had promised to his disciples. If it were the same as what had happened in previous history, the prophecy and the promise would've been void. Hence it was actually something different in essence.

Six word analogies have been used to describe this same phenomenon:

1.         Baptize (Acts 1:5)

2.         Come upon (Acts 1:8)

3.         Filled (Acts 2:4)

4.         Pour out (Acts 2:17-18, 33)

5.         Receive a gift (Acts 2:38)

6.         Promise (Acts 2:39, cf. 2:33)

I think they are synonymous.

In Acts, the Jews from foreign lands heard the disciples praising God in their various languages. Peter interpreted it to be the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy about the pouring out of the Spirit.

[LissaR]

On the day of Pentecost, the Holy Spirit came down upon the 120 apostles of Jesus who were gathered together in the upper room at Jerusalem.  The 120 were then filled with the Holy Spirit when, like tongues of flaming fire, He rested upon each of them.  They each began speaking in other languages, which the other Jews in Jerusalem from other countries heard and recognized as being their own.  The word analogies used in this account are (1) a sound of (2) a blowing of (3) a rushing wind, and (4) tongues of (5) flaming fire.  The Holy Spirit (1) rested upon them and they were (2) filled with the Holy Spirit.  Later in Acts 2, the reference is made that believers were given the gift of the Holy Spirit (vs 38) when they repented and were baptized.  Peter explained to the Jews that these events were not the acts of drunken crazies, but instead were the fulfillment of the prophet Joel, something that Jews were obviously familiar with. 

 

[Rosesam]

Q1. (Acts 2) What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history? What word analogies are used to describe this phenomenon? Are these word analogies essentially used synonymously with others in Acts 2? What did the Jews from foreign lands hear and see? How did Peter interpret what they heard and saw? (Acts 2:14-21)

Before this event, in the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon certain, select individuals in order to empower them in their office for which they were called. But there was no permanent indwelling even in them. But at Pentecost, the Holy Spirit was poured out upon all who believed in Jesus and who waited for this outpouring.

In Acts 1 and 2 we see six different word analogies to describe the same event. Baptize, come upon, filled, poured out, received a gift, promise are the word analogies used to describe the same phenomenon. Since they are all used to describe a single event, we can say that these words analogies are essentially used synonymously with others.

The Jews from foreign lands had gathered together to celebrate the feast of Pentecost. These Jews had different native tongues. But they heard, the speech of the one hundred and twenty who were filled by the Holy Spirit, in their own native tongues. They saw these disciples and thought they were drunk with wine.

But Peter spoke up and said to them that what they see and hear was what was spoken by the Prophet Joel that God will pour out His Holy Spirit upon all flesh in the last days. He was saying that what was happening then was a fulfilment of the prophecy spoken many years earlier. It is noteworthy to see the similarities between the giving of the law and giving of the Spirit. The Jews believed that the feast of Pentecost was to commemorate the giving of the Law and it was on Pentecost that the Holy Spirit was given. At Mt. Sinai, there was earthquake, fire and the sound of the Lord which was likened to many waters. Where the 120 were gathered there was shaking of the place, cloven tongues of fire, and they spoke in tongues. After the Law was given, 3000 were killed on the golden calf incident, whereas when Peter preached 3000 gave their lives to Jesus. Truly we live in the age of grace.

[av4Jesus]

On 7/23/2018 at 9:24 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q1. (Acts 2) What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history? What word analogies are used to describe this phenomenon? Are these word analogies essentially used synonymously with others in Acts 2? What did the Jews from foreign lands hear and see? How did Peter interpret what they heard and saw? (Acts 2:14-21)

At the Pentecost, the Holy Spirit came upon 120 apostles and filled them and they started speaking in tongues. "They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them." (Acts 2:3)

The word analogies used to describe this phenomenon are:

1.         Baptize (Acts 1:5)

2.         Come upon (Acts 1:8)

3.         Filled (Acts 2:4)

4.         Pour out (Acts 2:17-18, 33)

5.         Receive a gift (Acts 2:38)

6.         Promise (Acts 2:39, cf. 2:33)

Yes the word analogies are used synonymously with others in Acts 2.

Jews from foreign lands heard the Gospel being preached in their own language and some were amazed but some mocked them. 

"In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy." (Acts 2:17-18, quoting Joel 2:28-29) Peter understands that this is God pouring His Spirit on the apostles.

[MyRockOfAges]

What happened in Acts 2 was the fulfillment of prophecy in the Old Testament, as said by Jesus that He will pour His Spirit upon all those who wait on Him, and they shall receive power to be His witnesses to the ends of the earth. In the Old Testament, Spirit of God cams upon kings, prophets and priests only occasionally. While on the day of Pentecost in New Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon the disciples and others who waited in the upper room and empowered them with boldness to preach the good news. His ability overcomes our inability.

The word analogy used in Acts 2 is filled. And this word is used in Luke as well as by Luke in Acts as it unfolds from chapter 2 onwards.

On that day, Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, Cretes and Arabians, all of them heard them speak in their tongues the wonderful works of God and were amazed as the ones who spoke in tongues were all Galilaeans. Others mockingly said that they were drunk.

Peter then stood and spoke boldly that what they now saw was the fulfillment of prophecy as was told by Joel in the Old Testament that in the last days God will pour out His Spirit on all flesh (people), sons and daughters will prophecy, old men will see dreams and young men will see visions, even upon the servants - both men and women shall prophecy. Also spoke of the end times and the coming of the Lord, and all those who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved. The Holy Spirit will save people, will seal His people, anoint His people, and dwell within them till they see Him face to face.

[Queen Mc Daniel]

Q1. (Acts 2) What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history?

The promise of the Holy spirit (Acts 1:8) descended and 120 pulse women received the gift of the Holy Ghost with the gift of speaking in tongues. Acts 2:4 

What word analogies are used to describe this phenomenon?

six different word analogies that seem to describe the same phenomenon: Baptize Come upon Filled, pour out, Receive a gift, Promise.

Are these word analogies essentially used synonymously with others in Acts 2?

Yes.

What did the Jews from foreign lands hear and see?

They hear the gospel in their own language

How did Peter interpret what they heard and saw? (Acts 2:14-21)
The fulfillment of Joel prophecy. ^" But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
¹⁷  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:" (vs.16-18)…..

[Tholang]

The disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke in different youngest

Came upon, baptize, filled, pour out, receive a gift and promise are words used interchangeably not synonymously

Peter then said to them to repent and be varied with the Holy Spirit

 

[Nana Karlsson]

On the day of Pentecost there was an out pouring of the Holy Spirit from Heaven. All the people who gathered were saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that came to rest on each of them.  All of them were filled with the spirit and spoke in other tongues as the spirit enabled them. This is the gift Jesus promised the apostles before he went to Heaven.

In Acts 1 & 2 there are six word analogies for this event : Baptise, Come upon, Filled with, Pour out, Receive the gift, Promise.

Yes, all these six analogies that seems to describe the same phenomenon are essentially used synonymously.

The jews from foreign lands heard their own language being spoken and they witnessed the power of the Holy Spirit.

Peter interpreted what they heard as the outpouring of the Holy Spirit and saw  the prophecy by the prophet Joel as being fulfilled.

[Zibuyile]

Q1. What happened at the Pentecost that was different from what has ever happened? 

The room filled with rushing wind and toungues of  fire was rested on each of them and they were filled  with  Holy Spirit and spoke in different languages as Holy Spirit gave them utterance 

Wbat analogies used to describe this phenomenon? 

Wind 

Fire

Languages

Tongues 

Filled

Rested

Are they used synonymously with others in Acts 2

How did Peter interprete what they heard and saw? 

Peter was trying to explain to them that what is happening is what was prophesied by AJoel that God will pour out His Spirit to mankind. And what was happening in Acts 2 was the fulfillment of that promise

[Krissi]

What happened at Pentecost that was different than anything that had happened in previous history? 

In most of the OT, the spirit comes to a particular individual who had been chosen to perform a particular task or role. Occasionally, though, the Spirit came to a group.

 

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Then the Lord came down in the cloud and spoke with him, and he took some of the power of the Spirit that was on him and put it on the seventy elders. When the Spirit rested on them, they prophesied—but did not do so again. However, two men, whose names were Eldad and Medad, had remained in the camp. They were listed among the elders, but did not go out to the tent. Yet the Spirit also rested on them, and they prophesied in the camp. A young man ran and told Moses, “Eldad and Medad are prophesying in the camp.”Joshua son of Nun, who had been Moses’ aide since youth, spoke up and said, “Moses, my lord, stop them!"  But Moses replied, “Are you jealous for my sake? I wish that all the Lord’s people were prophets and that the Lord would put his Spirit on them!

How was Pentecost different from this? The (Spirit which had been exclusively in Moses?) was shared with 70 elders. But it appears, that after they prophesied, the spirit left and they no longer had that gift. The two men who inadvertently were given some of the Spirit appeared to retain it. Moses wanted ALL God's people to have the Spirit on them.

At Pentecost, the spirit came down on 120 people including the apostles. It seems to have remained after they prophesied, unlike above. 

Cessationists believe that the HS left us, just as it left the elders in the time of Moses. The Holy Spirit had come to do miracles and give gifts, but then left, after the time of the apostles. 

I do not speak in tongues, nor do I have any spiritual gifts of which I am aware. My life pattern seems more like that of the 70 elders of Moses than the 120 observers at Pentecost.

[Katy]

Q1. Up until this time the Holy Spirit had come to people for specific purposes or task that God had given them to do. At Pentecost for the first time the Holy Spirit filled the people and stayed with them to give them power. 
The word analogies used were, filled with the Spirit, Acts2v4. Pour out my Spirit, Acts 2v 18. The gift of the Holy Spirit, Acts 2v38. The promise, Acts 2v39. Baptise, Acts 1v 5. Comes upon you. Acts 1v8. Yes these terms are used synonymously. 
There were God fearing men from every nation under Heaven. When they heard this sound( a violent wind) , a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Acts 2v5-6. 
Peter explained to them that what was happening was the part fulfilment of Joel’s prophecy in Joel2 v28-32.