Pastor Ralph Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Please share your thoughts on one or more of the questions in this lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdventIlliniRx Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1. How did the temple soldiers abuse Jesus? (Luke 22:63-65). with brutality. physically abused. Why did they abuse him, do you think? they believed he was an enemy of the State and and enemy of the Synagogue (Church) 2. Why was it important to Jesus' opponents to get him to admit to being the Messiah? (Luke 22:67a). To justify the torture and murder. What kind of Messiah were they expecting? a Davidic King. A restoration of Israel as a sovereign nation. 3. Why are Jesus' opponents often unable to listen to truth told them by credible people? (Luke 22:67b-68). They are 100% self-centered. How does understanding this help us to be more faithful disciples? Jesus is example of 100% non-conformist and Faith. 4. Read the passage about the Son of Man that Jesus refers to in 22:69 -- Daniel 7:13-14. What does this tell us about Jesus' preferred title of Son of Man? Jesus was 100% human being. What does it tell us about Jesus' true nature? Jesus was 100% human being and 100% Divinity simultaneously. 5. Extra credit: What, if anything, do the concepts of Messiah and Son of Man have in common? Messiah is Saviour and of Son of Man is a King. What are the differences between them? Messiah is related to God. Son of Man is descendant of human being 6. What did Jesus' Jewish opponents mean by the term "Son of God"? the relationship to God. What do Christians mean by the term "Son of God"? Is related to God Why is Jesus as the Son of God so important to our understanding of him? It is the character of Jesus. 7. What goals did Jesus' opponents achieve in his trial before the Sanhedrin? What liability did they incur by means of these proceedings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irmela Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 1. How did the temple soldiers abuse Jesus? (Luke 22:63-65) Why did they abuse Him, do you think? They mocked and beat Him. They spat on Him showing their contempt. The anger and hatred from their superiors had penetrated to them also. The mocking was by blindfolding Him and tempting Him to tell them who it was that struck Him. It was as if they stripped the role of prophet from Him. Also His power was ridiculed by the severe beatings. 2. Why was it important to Jesus' opponents to get him to admit to being the Messiah? (Luke 22:67a) What kind of Messiah were they expecting? If Jesus admitted to being the Messiah then they could get on with the business of doing away with Him politically. (It could then be taken as a threat to Rome) They needed a valid excuse to have Him killed. Then they could say He blasphemed. Actually what they did was illegal. To have Him stand trial at night and try to reach a verdict. {They were expecting a Messiah that would overthrow the Romans ruling over them. They expected He would set them free from foreign rule.} They did not want it to be Jesus as the spiritual side of things was being "stirred up" good and solid also. 3. Why are Jesus' opponents often unable to listen to truth told them by credible people? (Luke 22:67b-68) How does understanding this help us to be more faithful disciples? Actually they are not interested in hearing the truth. They want to hear something that will give them legal right to pursue their own preconceived ideas. Jesus knew this and bore the insults and ridicule of His enemies as an example that we too can be expected to follow. 4. Read the passage about the Son of Man that Jesus refers to in 22:69 -- Daniel 7:13-14. What does this tell us about Jesus' preferred title of Son of Man? What does it tell us about Jesus' true nature? It tells us of His belief of being fully man as well as being fully God. He is humble and obedient. Willing to submit totally to God's will. Coming as a man (truly being Son of Man). 5. What, if anything, do the concepts of Messiah and Son of Man have in common? What are the differences between them? The Messiah comes as the deliverer from sin and death. The Redeemer who offers LIFE. The Son of Man sits on the right hand of the Father and is reigning King of an unshakeable Kingdom. 6. What did Jesus' Jewish opponents mean by the term "Son of God"? What do Christians mean by the term "Son of God"? Why is Jesus as the Son of God so important to our understanding of Him? The Jews understood this as a political Messianic deliverer. We understand it to be the same in relation as of father and son. Each has their own role to fufil. 7. What goals did Jesus' opponents achieve in his trial before the Sanhedrin? What liability did they incur by means of these proceedings. They did not really understand what He was saying just took it to be blasphemous. The way the questions are set and answered, Jesus is actually giving it back to them to answer it themselves. Ye say that I am By all this they eventually accepted that Jesus had agreed to their accusations and now they could go ahead and have Him killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1. How did the temple soldiers abuse Jesus? (Luke 22:63-65) Why did they abuse Him, do you think? Mark suggests that initially some members of the Sanhedrin began to spit on the Son of God, to blindfold Him, and then demand that He prophesy “Who hit You?” The temple soldiers then joined in the scandal by mocking and beating Him, all of which was carried out with the wholehearted permission and co-operation of the members of the Sanhedrin. The fact that the official trial had not even started and they were already beating Jesus, shows us how desperate these leaders were to silence Jesus. By getting Him to prophesy meant that they knew Jesus claimed to be a prophet, yet they did not believe nor accept it, but instead they mocked Him, insulted Him, abused Him, despised Him, beat Him, and humiliated Him. What they were doing is no different than what the Jews had been doing for centuries. Earlier in our study of Luke we read: "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you” (13:34). What we notice here is the strength and calmness of our Lord Jesus, over against the haunting fear of His venomous adversaries. How scared they are, even though for the moment they seem to be the ones that are victorious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 2. Why was it important to Jesus' opponents to get Him to admit to being the Messiah? (Luke 22:67a) What kind of Messiah were they expecting? It was important for Jesus’ opponents to get Him to admit to being the Messiah, as this would prove He is a political threat to Rome, one of the messianic pretenders who stir up rebellion. This was all they wanted to hear, just the evidence they needed to convict Him. Now the Romans would quickly get rid of Him, since they would quickly crush any inkling of a rebellion. It’s ironic that they never once even considered that maybe His claim might in fact be true. They were so adamant on convicting Him that they never considered the implications of what He had said, or that their ideas about the Messiah might be completely wrong. They wanted a military Messiah, a military leader who would deliver them from the Roman rule. They weren’t interested in a Divine Messiah who would reign in God’s kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3. Why are Jesus' opponents often unable to listen to truth told them by credible people? (Luke 22:67b-68) How does understanding this help us to be more faithful disciples? The Messiah had been promised and prophesied by Moses, and all the prophets. A long-time expected Messiah who would come and rule over Israel and get rid of the Roman oppressors rule over them. Whatever was told to them they would not listen to or believe. Jesus said that they will not believe Him whatever He said or even that He was the Messiah. Their unbelief was wilful, obstinate, and unshakeable. They had pretended to have an open mind and ask sincere questions, but this was all a sham. Nothing would convince them, they weren’t listening, they were spiritually deaf. How often had they heard and seen His words and His works. The miracles He had performed were by the authority of His Father and for His Father’s glory. As a man, Jesus lived a perfect life, and so He is a perfect example of how to live. As God, Jesus gives us the power to do what is right. We can’t please God on our own; we must depend on Christ. This understanding helps us to be more faithful disciples, and makes it possible to live a godly life – through following our Lord Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 4, Read the passage about the Son of Man that Jesus refers to in 22:69 - Daniel 7:13-14. What does this tell us about Jesus' preferred title of Son of Man? What does it tell us about Jesus' true nature? Jesus often used the title “Son of Man” to refer to Himself (examples John 1:51; 6:53); to describe His authority and earthly ministry, that He has the authority to act on behalf of God (Dan 7:13-14), even mentioning that He has the authority to forgive sins (Luke 5:24); to anticipate His suffering and death, mentioning that He came to give His life as a ransom for many (Mark 10:45); to anticipate His future exaltation and glory (Luke 21:27). This tells us that all authority, glory, and sovereign power has been given to Him. This is in keeping with the Father’s promise to the Son in Psalm 2:6-9, and will be fulfilled at Christ’s Second Advent (Rev 11:15). This reminds me of Col 1:15-16 – for He alone reveals God in totality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 5. Extra credit: What, if anything, do the concepts of Messiah and Son of Man have in common? What are the differences between them? They are both titles for our Lord Jesus. To the Jews the Messiah was the long-expected ruler that will bring deliverance for Israel and establish God’s rule over the nations. Jesus discouraged others from referring to Him by this title (Mat 16:20), since the Jewish people expected their Messiah to be a political and military deliverer who would throw off the yoke of Rome and restore the fortunes of Israel. Jesus had come into this world as a spiritual Messiah, and His mission at His first coming was to suffer and die as an atoning sacrifice. Not only for Israel but the Gentiles as well. Son of Man is the name that Jesus used most often when referring to Himself. I think He used this title to show His total identification with humankind, who came to earth to deliver us from our bondage to sin. While the Son of Man highlights Jesus’ humanity it actually expresses His deity and His exalted nature. It derives from Dan 7:13-14 where God gives an everlasting kingdom in which all the nations of the earth will serve the Son of Man. Jesus uses this less direct title but the Son of Man will receive kingship over the earth someday, and He was more than just another human being, but an exalted, divine being – the Messiah. Jesus was fully God (John 1:1), but He was also fully human (John 1:14). As the Messiah and the Son of Man, He is deserving of both titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 6. What did Jesus' Jewish opponents mean by the term "Son of God"? What do Christians mean by the term "Son of God"? Why is Jesus as the Son of God so important to our understanding of Him? Jesus’ Jewish opponents understood the term to mean the future Messiah/king as God’s Son (Psalm 2:7), or Israel as God’s son (Exo 4:22-23; Hosea 11:1). We as Christians understand Jesus as the Son of God is fully God (John 1:1), is also fully human (John 1:14), and that Jesus is a member of the Trinity of God. The Father is God (John 6:27; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Rom 9:5; Col 2:9; Heb 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Cor 3:16). Earlier in Luke we learnt the Father affirms that Jesus Christ as His Son (3:22; 9:35); that Jesus Christ as the “Son of God” is the Messiah (1:32); that the “Son of God” is the One sent by God the Father (20:13). Jesus Christ Himself states that He is the Son of God. Our whole eternal future depends on our understanding of Jesus as the Son of God. Scripture teaches us that the Father loves the Son, and that love is manifested in giving the Son control over all things, including our destinies (John 3:35). “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them” (John 3:36). Nothing could be clearer; God is telling us that anyone who believes in the Son of God has everlasting life. Our eternal destiny depends on what we do with the Son of God. Receive Him, and we have eternal life as a free gift; reject Him, we will never enjoy everlasting life, but have God’s wrath ready to fall at any moment on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 7. What goals did Jesus' opponents achieve in His trial before the Sanhedrin? What liability did they incur by means of these proceedings? For Jesus to be tried by such evil men is a great humiliation. This whole trial by the Sanhedrin was a farce, for it had been decided long ago that Jesus must be put to death (John 11:49-50). Jesus was publicly exposing the hidden motives of the Jewish leaders, and calling the temple-court a den of thieves. This had a detrimental effect on their dishonest and corrupt income, and at the same time they were losing their hold upon the people. Jesus had to be eliminated. They devised a plot, even with false witnesses, in order that they may put Him to death (Mat 26:59). Ironically, they set out to prove that Jesus is the Son of God, the Messiah. Confirmed. But this they did not see this – being blinded by hatred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Q1. Jesus had just gone through some intense questioning and the soldiers can sense the anger of their superiors and so start to take that anger and violence out on Jesus. They ridiculed His power by severely beating Him. They mocked Him as a prophet, because that is what most people thought He was , they blindfolded Him and demanded that He tell them who was hitting Him. They jeered His kingship by dressing Him in a cloak and placing a crown of thorns on His precious head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Q2. If they could get Jesus to say that he was the Messiah , they felt it gave them grounds to punish Him. They could accuse Him of blasphemy and being a threat to the Roman political position in the land. They did not even consider that maybe Jesus was telling the truth. They totally missed out on the opportunity to know and love their Saviour. Jesus was not the Messiah they were expecting and they did not consider the possibility that they could have been wrong. They were expecting a Military Messiah who would come and rescue them from their Roman oppressors. Jesus came to rescue them from their oppression of sin but they couldn’t see this at all, or weren’t willing to see it. Q3.The leaders had fixed ideas about what the Messiah would be like and they held onto this as truth and were not prepared to entertain any other ideas about who or what the Messiah was about. They had heard from the prophets that a Messiah was coming to deliver them from oppression but they believed it was from the Roman oppression not the oppression of their sins. Q4. These verses in Daniel 7 v13-14 tell us that Jesus was human but fully approved by His Father. Jesus was given by God the Father authority, glory and sovereign power, all people one day will bend their knees and worship Him. His rule will last for all eternity, His kingdom is going to last forever. We see that Jesus was truly Man but also truly God. Q5.Both these titles belong to Jesus. They are interlinked. The Messiah came to carry out the work of redemption, but Jesus had to become the Son of Man to be able to go through that. No other human being was sinless only Jesus. So Jesus had to be the one to be our Messiah, or Saviour, He did that by becoming the Son of Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Q5.The titles of Messiah and Son of Man both refer to Jesus. They are descriptive of two roles that Jesus had while on earth. The Messiah came to die on the cross to save everyone who would turn to Him. Jesus had to become “Son of Man” in order to be put to death on the cross for our sins. Son of Man was the title by which Jesus wanted to be know. In this way people would know that although He was God he was also truly man. Messiah was God’s sinless son coming to die on the cross for all sinners. He was a very different Messiah to what the Jewish nation expected. They expected someone who would come and deliver them from the political oppression of the Romans. Instead Jesus was a Messiah who came to release sinners from the oppression of sin. Having completed His work of redemption Son of Man sits in Heaven at God the Fathers right hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Q6. Jesus opponents believed the “ Son of God”, to be a Messianic term. The military leader who was going to restore Israel to it former glory and defeat their Roman oppressors. Christians believe that the Son of God is God the Fathers son. He is part of the triune Godhead, with the Father and the Holy Spirit. As Christian’s we believe in God’s Son and because we do believe we have eternal life. John 3 v36 tells us Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him. Q7. This trial was a sham from the beginning, the Jewish leaders had already decided that the were going to get rid of Jesus. Jesus upset their status quo too much. They were going to get their own way sooner or later. They were please when Jesus admitted or at least didn’t outright deny that He was the Messiah. This gave them their chance this was something they could punish Him for because by claiming to be a King, Jesus was a threat to the political stability. They were so fixed in their views they could not see beyond their own bigotry and realise that standing before them was the Saviour of the world. They didn’t want to see it, they just wanted to be rid of Him and His challenging ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haar Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1. How did the temple soldiers abuse Jesus? (Luke 22:63-65) Why did they abuse him, do you think? They mocked and beat him to humiliate him. 2. Why was it important to Jesus' opponents to get him to admit to being the Messiah? (Luke 22:67a) What kind of Messiah were they expecting? So that they can find reason for Roman authority to convict and kill him. 3. Why are Jesus' opponents often unable to listen to truth told them by credible people? (Luke 22:67b-68) How does understanding this help us to be more faithful disciples? They are often unable to listen to the truth because they are often not interested in hearing and knowing the truth from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George L Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 How did the temple soldiers abuse Jesus? There is often a tendency to abuse advantage. (Luke 22:63-65) Why did they abuse him, do you think? Because they were not thwarted nor corrected. The Jewish leadership was by standing and silent. Why was it important to Jesus' opponents to get him to admit to being the Messiah? It would make him another Galilean rebellion starter in their eyes. (Luke 22:67a) What kind of Messiah were they expecting? Expecting perhaps to strong, hoping yes promised yes. But them having actual belief, faith in that coming? No. A belief in only a favored portion of scripture. Yes, and blind to the requirement for their actual conspiratorial role they were blind. Why are Jesus' opponents often unable to listen to truth told them by credible people? Blinded by their opinion. Having no understanding of the times. (Luke 22:67b-68) How does understanding this help us to be more faithful disciples? We are warned about the householder not being on guarde for the thief does not arrive on our closed scheduled alertness. Read the passage about the Son of Man that Jesus refers to in 22:69 -- Daniel 7:13-14. What does this tell us about Jesus' preferred title of Son of Man? It is the title of the coming king. What does it tell us about Jesus' true nature? He will be the ruler over all creation from Jerusalem. That the prophesies of God ruling from Jerusalem are true. So far beyond their wildest greed for power they can not imagine it. Extra credit: What, if anything, do the concepts of Messiah and Son of Man have in common? The rescuer is the coming king. What are the differences between them? The role shall change at the end of the age. From rescuer to righteous judge, to king. What did Jesus' Jewish opponents mean by the term "Son of God"? What do Christians mean by the term "Son of God"? Why is Jesus as the Son of God so important to our understanding of him? I was caught up to the throne room. On my knees before God. He asked what I had to say… I knew I would die if I spoke amiss. I turned my head to the presence beside me. It was the feet of Jesus. He had done something, I turned my head back toward Gods throne and the floor. Before me was a clean, shimmering bright white robe. I heard my voice stammering in wonder and thanksgiving. “Thankyou for the robe….” The son acted for me. To this very day it still shakes me. Oh how deeply I desire to serve him. What goals did Jesus' opponents achieve in his trial before the Sanhedrin? They established a confidence to continue, that Jesus was but another Galilean upstart.What liability did they incur by means of these proceedings? They became guilty of his blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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