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No it does not. We just have to remember that God placed us in that position. We didn't place ourselves in that position. Which should help keep us humble in our hearts.

 

Jesus corrects because he loves us and wants the best for us and our characters . We need to know when we are wrong because it helps keep us with a humble heart. It helps us to grow and become more like him. If we didn't receive corrections we would never grow to the place we should be. 

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Authorities are necessary to bring order or peace where there is need. Best result is obtained when they are carried out in love and humility.

Jesus did not hesitate to rebuke sternly his disciples to correct mistakes but always had their best interest in mind.

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When we correct someone, it's not about us.   We focus on the big picture - the reason for correction that makes the world a better place, the child a better student, the soul that will bring more glory to God.   Sometimes we need to use a word or analogy that is painful to hear and sometimes we have to express our feelings, but not to elevate ourselves or be proud.  

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Q,10 Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility?

I would say No!. The Bible tells us in Luke 10:19 that Jesus has given us authority to rebuke in His name. Authority and humility coexist when one's heart is right.

How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples?

When Jesus used rebuke  towards His disciples it was to form their values and mold their behavior like a parent would do towards their children in a humble way. Again, Jesus rebukes with compassion and humility.

 

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When theres humility there is always a way to be humble.  I think that classes like this in the art of humility prepares the low and high to be humble.  Jesus was man and God so he had his own will, he humbled himself to the authority of Father God.  Look, Jesus is the examble to al men especially to men of God.  Whether you are in charge of many or the charged does:nt matter in things of God.

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Did not Jesus' use parables to rebuke or enforce the disciples' lifestyles with living knowledge to his disciples. as they travelled with him. The disciples seem to have a vivid time trying to understand the Master.  He would speak a parable, let them think about the meaning and later tell them the meaning.  I thought that was favorable because in those early years they actually had more time to devote to thinking about the Masters teaching.  It is humbling to part take in righteous thinking within my thought process. and pondering about its application in my walk with Christ.  Later as Jesus prepared them for his death, Jesus stopped talking in parables.  The seeds of his rebuking paid off because he felt the need to speak plainly to his disciples.  Jesus rebukes seem to be from his Godly side, he rebuked in the name of God.  Denouncing earthly thoughts with divine rebukes of where those the disciples' thoughts come from.  Denouncing and rebuking the devil as he spoke to them.

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Q10. Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility? How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples?

I think when a person is in authority and God has placed him or her there they have learned some lessons along the way which would allow them to come along side of those "under their authority".  In the Word of God, for instance, there are lots of scripture on pride, or the power of the tongue.  What we say and what we do have eternal consequences.  So to stand in righteousness or morality, and to be able to express concerns or dictate actions should be done under right authority.  The authority is not an end in themselves but is ruled also by authority, rules and guidelines of trusted principles.  Moses was a man under authority, David was a man after God's heart.  We don't just rebuke or chastise out of whims or prejudices but we do it because we are under authority and we do it in a humble way that can be received by the person being corrected.  Of course, they have a choice as God does give people free will.

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No, it does not. Being in a place of authority actually says that much as you are in "power", you must respect people and understand that we are all made in the image of God but you must exercise your authority well in correcting the wrong done. You must not overlook the wrong done but correct it in a way that will not disgrace the person you are correcting.

Jesus rebukes James and John when they ask Him that one should sit at Jesus' right and one at His left in His glory. Jesus rebukes their ambition and also reprimand other disciples by their uneasiness when they heard the request made by the two brothers. Jesus has assured us that He has laid His life for us and whoever believes in Him will have everlasting life. This is more than we can ask for because He became ransom for us and took the fall and thought about us more than us thinking about ourselves.

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Q10. Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility?

No, we are firstly human and there after adding title only to perform your temporally job diligently.

How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples?

JESUS rebukes in a gentle manner. A manner that built up the character.

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Q10. Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility? How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples?

No, if anything we should rise to the moment and be what God is calling us to be.  We look and weigh everything according to the Word.  I am blessed to be a correctional facility chaplain and the way you break through the hardest of hearts is with love and humility...   They are broken reeds and need to be handled with care.   There were times Jesus was stern but in many cases it was gently asking them questions and showing them truth.

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On 8/12/2024 at 8:41 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q10. Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility? How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples?

No, Authority and humility can coexist when one's heart is right. Humility is concerned for the needs of others.

Jesus uses rebukes to form disciples for correction when they need correction, as that helps them to grow and mature in Him.

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Q10. Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility? How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples? 

No, coming from a place of authority does not prevent you from correcting with humility.  When your focus is power over others there is no humility.  When our focus is on God and His Glory, there is humility in our correcting.  Colossians 1:28 and 3:16 both speak to Believers as if admonishing (gentle correction) was part of disciple life.  Jesus uses rebuke to focus His disciples on God's Will. 

Colossians 1:27b-29, "which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.He is the one we proclaim, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone fully mature in Christ. To this end I strenuously contend with all the energy Christ so powerfully works in me." and Colossians 3:16-17, "Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."

When Jesus spoke, 'Get behind me Satan!' to Peter, He was doing His best to keep the disciples from assuming that the Will of God was only going to be roses and joy--sometimes God calls His disciples to really hard things.

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Q10.

  1. Does being in a place of authority, such as a rabbi, police officer, or parent prevent you from correcting with humility? There is a time for stern instruction in righteous pathway selection. That is an occasion for authority to emphasize the importance of the choice.
  2. How does Jesus use rebukes to form disciples? He makes clear the opposition of custom to mercy and compasion.
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His rebuke is our suffering.

Being in a position of authority does not prevent us from inflicting suffering on those we deem to have broken the law or offended our principles. When authority figures inflict suffering on others, they should be severely punished if they wrongly accused or harmed others.  Unfortunately, I rarely see this happen. Contemporary authority figures seem immune to the consequences of their misdeeds and evil-doing. The legislation they conceive, the innocent people they target and the societies they destroy have caused great social or political suffering among both Christians and non-Christians -- the authority figures, however, suffer not. 

There is also a personal suffering. Suffering in the Christian life is a form of rebuke. This form of suffering cuts doubly deep because we know Jesus could alleviate our suffering “with the snap of His fingers” yet chooses not to do so. Thus, we conclude, rightly, that rebuking us via our suffering must be His will, that is.

Is such rebuking/suffering effective? Does such suffering bring us closer to Him? Yes. Sadly, it does. But it also creates a jittery fear of Him, for suffering makes us doubt His goodness and reliability.

Yes, God brings good out of all situations and circumstances – still, we ask ourselves why did not He prevent the causes of our suffering in the first place? Couldn’t a loving and good God find less painful ways of growing our character into His likeness?  

I don’t like "a parent disciplining a child" analogized to "God rebuking adult Christians." Adults can be reasoned with. We can learn without suffering. We can see other’s mistakes and not make the same ones ourselves. There are a gazillion ways of teaching – force-feeding knowledge, if need be – without making us suffer unto death. This is why, most of the time, we don’t think of suffering as a rebuke, though sometimes it is just that. We see it as unmerited. Unfair. Unloving. Unjust. It’s quite difficult to believe that Jesus cares or has “our best interest” in mind when we suffer wrongly, deeply or incessantly.

It is not the case that those who are most severely rebuked are the “worst” Christians among us, that is, those who require severe change. Sometimes those who suffer the most are quite useful to Him, but NOT BECAUSE THEY SUFFER. Also, some useful/mature Christians seem to suffer very little – others have horrible lives. Conversely, some not-greatly-used Christians seem to suffer very little while others are in great pain. 

The randomness of suffering and the pointedness of rebuke seem to be in conflict.

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