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Patience is a virtue of humility.  Patience is kind, gentle, reliable and waiting. Knowing the word of God would be just as learning the word of God.  I like that adage; I only know Christ crucified.  Everyday Christ teaches me something new.  Today we must be patience in our relationships, family member, wives, husbands and friends.  We must have forgiveness in our hearts.  Without a forgiving heart we are slow to hear, fast to speak and fast to anger.  Human nature submitting to Godly nature.  Godly nature overcoming fleshly nature.   renew.org/what-is-patience. Patience in the Bible: 

  • Colossians 3:12: "Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering."

 

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Q36. (James 1:19-20; Colossians 3:13) What is the relationship of patience to humility? What in us motivates impatient outbursts? What does it take for God to work in us "long-suffering"? Why is forbearance so vital in a marriage?

It takes awhile for situations to develop or play out.  It takes time to understand people since we are so different.  Even the differences between males and females, adults and children, motivations, occupations, maturity levels, even disabilities all require understanding.  If we are commanded to love one another, it requires us to understand one another, to meet the needs, make things impartial, to accomplish tasks, to meet time schedules.  A plan can be developed based on the understanding of the people involved and the talents involved or tasks to accomplish.  Patience is a must and patience is a part of humility as all is taking place.  Patience means that perfection may be desired but may not happen.  We strive for excellence, and we accept with gratitude what the Lord does among us as we work together.   In order to have unity, we must have patience.  We won't see perfection until we get to heaven.  If we have understanding of what others are going through, we see they are doing the best they can in the place they find themselves.  This ongoing compassion develops long suffering in us.  To preserve unity we must have forbearance.  Everyone sees life through their own eyes, their perception is theirs.  We have to appreciate the ways we are the same, and respect the differences as well.  This takes forbearance, endurance.  In the midst of differences, we can still prevail and keep unity in our faith.  In our day and age, it seems that differences are abounding.  I heard of marriages breaking up over whether they got vaccines or whether to vaccinate the children.  In this attitude of humility and patience and forbearance, I think we can work some of these difficult events in a way that would glorify God.  

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Q36. (James 1:19-20; Colossians 3:13)

What is the relationship of patience to humility?

Patience is part of the humble life, shows that time is of no essences. 

What in us motivates impatient outbursts?

Mostly if someone is short temper and don't have self-control.

What does it take for God to work in us "long-suffering"?

Nothing we must only follows where HE leads us and obeying what HE says and want to do in us.

Why is forbearance so vital in a marriage?

We are must have a total understanding of each other respect that embrace love, honesty, caring ext. results to forbearing.

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Q. 36 ( James 1:19-20, Colossians 3:13) What is the relationship of patience to humility?

Patience to humility is part of the fruit of the Spirit.Both virtues require a willingness to listen to others, don't react on a quick impulse and prioritize the needs of others.

What in us motivates impatient outbursts?

When a person has no self-control and is easily angered by any little thing. Like a ticking time bomb.

What does it take for God to work in us long-suffering?

Be obedient!

Why is forbearance so vital in a marriage?

Forbearance is vital in a marriage because it's a virtue that can help couples endure ups and downs in their lives. No one is perfect people will have flaws, but it's love action and the understanding of others that can make a marriage work.Communication, respect, and through sacrificial love and loving your partner despite their unfavorable attributes.

 

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Q36. (JAMES 1:19-20; COLOSSIANS 3:13) 
What is the relationship of patience to humility? What in us motivates impatient outbursts? What does it take for God to work in us "long-suffering"? Why is forbearance so vital in a marriage? 
We often have to humble ourselves when confronted with difficult people by displaying patience and not anger. The pride of self-importance and disrespect for others motivates our impatient outbursts. Humility is often seen in believers suffering patiently, “long-suffering,” thanking and fully trusting God in the midst of the trial – remembering that our Lord is full of compassion and mercy (James 5:11). Marriage humbles us - just as we have to put up with the idiosyncrasies of our partner, we must realise that they have to put up with ours – which may even be worse. 
 

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Q36. (James 1:19-20; Colossians 3:13) What is the relationship of patience to humility? What in us motivates impatient outbursts? What does it take for God to work in us "long-suffering"? Why is forbearance so vital in a marriage?

Patience allows me to slow down, listen and react calmly and appropriately according the Word.   Impatient outbursts come from a prideful spirit.  It comes from a place of rushing through my agenda and not for the sake of others.     Long-suffering teaches us to slow down, and fully surrender to Jesus.   Forbearance is vital in marriage because allows wisdom to manifest and through that we stay unified and loving and that brings glory to God.

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When I think about patience and humility I think of the ministry of Jesus and the patience he continued to show the disciples even when they argued with each other and had little faith. I also think of how patient God has been with me, despite my decades of rebellion against him. I pray that he will grant me this humility towards others. 

Forbearance helps to refine and strengthen our patience. We only learn to be patient when things don’t go our way. 

I could certainly point out every annoyance with my wife or snap back when she’s in the wrong but that isn’t showing love to my spouse, nor is it in the spirit of humility. God has forgiven my offenses and I must be quick to forgive as well.

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Q36. (James 1:19-20; Colossians 3:13) What is the relationship of patience to humility? What in us motivates impatient outbursts? What does it take for God to work in us “long-suffering”? Why is forbearance so vital in a marriage?

In the patience arena, this verse always reminds me of who God is: "He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9) I saw His incredible patience waiting for my Dad to want salvation - which he asked for at age 88. He loves us so very much; how can we be impatient with anyone?  Impatient outbursts are motivated by putting ourself and our way first.  Thankfully, God works in us through the Holy Spirit to develop forbearance which is so vital to marriage.  Any relationship will have its ups and downs, good days and bad.  We keep working, keep forgiving, and pressing on to know Jesus better--thankful He gives us His Word and His Spirit.

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Perhaps the thread that is sewn through all these attributes is the passage of time. Patience, forbearance, long-suffering and perseverance are qualities or attributes embedded in the passage of time, in a waiting that seems endless, one that defies the typical delays in His answers to prayer. Humility is often seen as a timeless quality like love, but it is not -- it increases as life progresses. It expands into time.

An old-fashioned word I rarely see is "sufferance." It is a sort of synonym for hanging on obediently while experiencing pain, distance from Him and disappointment. "Long-suffering" is a bit like sufferance but it emphasizes the passage of time ... our suffering can be LONG. Seemingly endless. Long-suffering means accepting that the pain of patience may end only with death; it's the willingness to give up our heart's desires for now because we still hope, against the odds, that in the future God will be compassionate and loving, aware of our need, a listener of prayer and love-filled enough to intervene and save us. Patience, therefore, is painful. Very much so. It is suffering for a long time, waiting and waiting more, painfully waiting as the desperate hope for an answer ebbs but never totally dies. A person characterized by long-suffering has endured wihtout giving up the pain of a God who did not intervene in a situation or solve a problem. A long-sufferer is a Christian who in spite of circumstances keeps a thin flicker of hope burning.

Outbursts can be a consequence of a frustrating feeling that the waiting time had been “too long.” It is also a consequence of the fear that God Himself had turned away. This sort of shortsightedness puts our own assessment of reality over His. It is difficult to not think rationally, at times like this, to give up because it's the sensible and logical thing to do. Faith requires us to be irrational in the face of cascading disappointments, to believe in times of long-suffering, to keep going even though it may end only at our deaths.

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I want to answer this question again. After four days of horrible illness, patience looks different ...

I tend to think of patience as waiting, not grumbling as I generally do when forced to wait, but an anticipatory or faith-filled waiting, an optimistic sort of waiting. Patience is measured by the passage of time, as is waiting.

Perhaps we’re impatient because we know our time is short, that we’re dying … our days are numbered, and we don’t know the date when we’ll be gathered together in heaven so want this short time on earth to be meaningful and God-led, not spent waiting for something to happen that seems never to come. It’s difficult to be patient when life stretches to an uncertain limit in front of us and we’re not given “permission” by God to do the things we genuinely think He has called us to do. Thus, waiting is a time of increasing patience, and is, frankly, horrible. Also humbling. It’s humbling to do things and live in a way that has no value or significance to us when we know we’re called to other things. Yet God humbles us. Keeps us down. Pins our feet to the ground. Forces us to cry out to him in sheer, abject frustration … and then give up. That’s patience. And humility.

Forbearance is a temporary reprieve of justice. We know justice will be served in the end, but in this life, we forbear because justice will not happen, the good are not rewarded and evil is not punished. One of the most difficult aspects of scripture, in my mind anyway, is how certain Jews were born and died in captivity, or people who endure painful and meaninglessness disease which is never cured, or the horrors of war. Yet God lets these injustices happen and our only response must be submission to His sovereignty. We must forbear injustice. We must forbear our desire to right wrongs and correct injustices … to mitigate evil.

I suppose forbearance is necessary in marriage, but I think of it as necessary in all of life, even with my dog.

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