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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

God is not against pleasures at all...God would not want his children suffering or living in misery..But the question is about the priority...When you place seeking after pleasures before seeking His ways and kingdom that accounts for a sin..It is said in the Bible that one cannot serve God and money together...

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

I bellieve God truly want us to have pleasure in our life, as long as it doesn't go against His will in for us. If we allow it to become selfish pleasure where we are always thinking of ourselves. When we put our pleasures befor God that is displeasing to Him. To live to increase our pleasures is living a very selfish life and could easily take us down the wrong path, that eventually we would live to regret. There are many temptations out there that are just waiting to snare us in.

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

God is not against pleasure as long as it is good pleasure. Pleasure can be self seeking living for "pleasurable things which come from the world." These things do not satisfy so we long for more, but when we seek Christ first, He fills us with joy and all the pleasure that we need, we then are content. Unfortunately the pleasures of the world always look so inviting, like candy to a child, but the bible tells us that being friends with the world is showing hatred to God.

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

God isn't against pleasure per-se, but rather pleasure that is self-serving rather God-serving. The motivation of our desires should be focused on what God wants for us and his creation.

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure?

God is not against pleasure. But when seeking pleasure becomes our main goal in life then we are not living for God. Self pleasure can become very destructive.

What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

When we live only for self pleasure we become selfish. When our prayers are centered on our pleasure alone, our focus in no longer on Him but on things of this world. :rolleyes:

a)God is not against good pleasure, only self-seeking, selfish pleasures that in the end hurt ourselves,others and God.

b)Living to increase one's own pleasure, is selfish, and we are denying other people our love and other good things that God wants us to have and for us to share with others. :)

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure?

The definition is important over here. I believe God is not against every pleasure. But when dwelling in yeilding to worldly type that does not benefit our spiritual life then God is against it.

What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

Living to increase one's pleasure is wrong when we are not contented because it is not godliness

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

God gave us the senses to enjoy the pleasures of life. It is the distortian that brings the problem - ......If we see something that gives us pleasure - it is an opportunity to 'dialogue' with God. It becomes God centred, focused. When it is distorted into being about us...it comes a totally different thing.

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It is wrong when we want to increase our pleasure at the possible expense of someone else;s pain. God is not against pleasure but when we want a pleasure that is not to our benefit & his Glory, God will sometimes not grant it. On the other hand, he will sometimes grant us pleasures that are wrong for us , in order for us to see our mistake & the "error of our ways" Living to increase our own pleasure is selfish & wrong because it is not living to "glorify God", nor is it living to "seek ye first the kingdom of heaven".

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

The key word here is Living for pleasure.\

We are to live for Jesus and the Kingdom of God. God will supply all our needs in abundance and wants us to experiece his joy and peace. If we seek the pleasures of this world we are putting Jesus on the second place in our hearts.

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God is not against pleasure. Read Luke 19:9-11 and it tells us that God will answer our prayers of petition as long as we are asking for the right thing and with the right motives. He knows how to give good gifts to us, but we must seek these good gifts and not things for our own pleasures. Seeking ones own pleasure is not obeying the royal law; it is selfish and not looking out with love for others.

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God designed us to seek happiness and He rejoices in our joy. However, living ONLY to increase my own pleasure is selfishness. Taken to the extreme, it leads me to neglect others needs and God’s will. If I put myself first, I will always be in conflict with others and unwilling to fully surrender to God.

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God is not against pleasure. That is why He has put everything on this earth. When we look at what He has done that will always bring us pleasure. It isn’t wrong to increase one’s pleasure as long as it doesn’t get it from someone else pleasure. We need to be looking out for our neighbor. When we do, that will bring us pleasure.

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(4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

God is not against pleasure, after all, He created us for His pleasure. What God is against is when we live for our own pleasure. When our efforts are focused on meeting our own needs and desires instead of meeting the needs of others. This attitude will put us in direct conflict with God and with others making it impossible to fulfill that "royal law."

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure?

 

No. God wants us to have good things and to take pleasure in His creation. But he is against our putting pleasure and personal enjoyment ahead of our love and appreciation for Him.

God is against people living their lives totally in pursuit of personal happiness instead of loving others and trying to improve their lives as well through a relationship with Him.

 

 

 

What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

 

Living with the main goal of increasing one's pleasure is breaking the first commandment. "You shall have no other gods before Me". Living to increase our pleasure and enjoyment of life as our main focus places that goal ahead of serving God. We are, in effect, placing personal pleasure before God and serving our worldly desires instead of serving God.

 

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

 

God is not against pleasure when it is within the bounds of His will for us. 

 

The problem with living to increase one's pleasure is that you are making yourself God.  Living to increase one's pleasure usually is at the expense of our relationship with God and others.  People who are self-centered and seeking to increase their pleasure cannot truly serve God and others because self gets in the way.  We were created for God and each other not self.

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure? 

 

 

 

God is not against pleasure when it is within the bounds of His will for us. 

 

The problem with living to increase one's pleasure is that you are making yourself God.  Living to increase one's pleasure usually is at the expense of our relationship with God and others.  People who are self-centered and seeking to increase their pleasure cannot truly serve God and others because self gets in the way.  We were created for God and each other not self.

 

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Q1. (4:1-3) Is God against pleasure? What wrong in living to increase one's pleasure?

I know God is not against pleasure, especially if it involves time with the family and fellow Christian brothers and sisters. God is not against pleasure as long it is not for self indulgence or greed to take from others or envy to despise other people.

Living to increase our own pleasure is wrong, we become self centered, greed and enviousness. This is sin against our brothers and sisters and most of all God. He wants us to love one another and have fellowship that is healthy to our spiritual benefit.    

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In chapter 4, I believe as James nears his closing, he is giving his previous words from chapter 1, a distinct perspective and explaining further the consequences of his warnings. “They should not then expect anything from God for they who ask are double-minded and unstable.” (James 1:5) Then, in verse 14 he warns, “but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.” The reason we do not receive what we ask from God is we do not ask for a good purpose, but for an evil one. One of selfishness and not giving God glory.  God is not against pleasure, He is against the type of bad pleasure we ask for. If we do not compromise God’s glory or forget who blessed us with what we do have, I do not believe seeking pleasure is wrong. For the Israelites sought a land flowing of milk and honey.  

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