Glend422 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 We are a different slave. Paul is using a metaphor. It is in a sense that we can be proud of.Our greatness is God's weakness. That is how why we are referred to as slave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikka Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Servant in Greek is translated "doulos" and means: "a male slave as an entity in a socioeconomic entity". The word slave is also translated :"doulos" from the Greek., being solely committed to the master for life. A slave doesn't complain, is totally committed. As a servant we shouldn't complain, but it gives some way of an option to grumble. When you are a slave, it's total commitment.. So, the joy to serve God is TOTAL commitment = being a "slave". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readytolearn Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I believe the basic idea of "slave" is being consecrated TO God for service. I believe the basic idea of "saints" is being consecrated BY God for service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rag7707 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 A slave is committed to serve their master and a saint is one who is set apart for service to God. When we are saved we become a slave and a saint in God's service for life to do whatever His will is for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose22 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I think the basic idea of Slave is being imprisioned and controlled in some way by another. Whereby "The root of Saint" is coming from a perspective of "Love" yes it is true to say that as Christians We can be looked upon as being a slave to God...if We are not coming from a place of Love...this is the dynamic that turns us from Slave to Saint...Service and obedience to God through Love and compassion.Thereby open to receiving the fruits of The spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimmy Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Slave: someone committed to their Master for life Saint: Root idea: Believers who are consecrated to God. They are basically the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiawilson62 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 In context of this passage I believe a slave is committed to his master; he/she is under ownership of another, in this case, we are under the owenrship of our Lord and Savior and we are to obey Him because we are submitted to Him only. The word "saint" I kind of thought of someone being holy, however, the word "saint" denotes that we are dedicated and consecrated to the Lord; set apart for the Lord to honor, worship, adore and serve Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByFaithAlone Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I loved this first lesson! The word "slave" has so many negative connotations, especially here in the deep south, that I never imagined that anything positive could ever be made in association with the term. We need to be servants (slaves) to Christ Jesus, and be committed to Him for life. We are called to be slaves to do God's will, and to fulfill God's purposes for our lives. The goal is to be like Paul, to find joy in doing God's will, which results from having a genuine love for God and for his son Jesus Christ our Lord. Saints are like slaves in that saints are dedicated to the service of God, just as slaves are dedicated to the service of their masters. Once we are saved, we become His sacred property, having been made holy by being purchased by God at the cost of Christ's blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Many good answers to the question! My contribution-a slave belongs to a master, but has no choice about it. A saint has made the choice to belong to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Many good answers to the question! My contribution-a slave belongs to a master, but has no choice about it. A saint has made the choice to belong to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santhana David Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Q1. (1:1) What is the basic idea of "slave"? What is the root idea of "saint"? In what way are these words saying the same thing about a Christian's relationship to God? What is the basic idea of "slave"? : A slave is a person owned by someone – however that perception has changed with the understanding of the Greek word “DOULOS” – a person committed to his/her master – and in the Christian context we are slaves under the wings of GOD through JESUS CHRIST. What is the root idea of "saint"? : I believe that the word “saint” has it’s origins in Christianity – more so in Catholicism where many who led exemplary Christian lives are canonized after their death – a saint is an ardent follower/believer who is committed in thought, word and deed to Godly works for the glory of God through Christ Jesus. We are saints – we who are the temples of the Holy Spirit. In what way are these words saying the same thing about a Christian's relationship to God? : Both slave or saint are committed Godly living in the Christian framework. Both lead us to God and Christ Himself. A slave demonstrates his commitment to his master in this perspective to God as the Master of all mankind. A saint on the other hand exhibits his / her ability to be consecrated and committed in the service of God. Both complement each other in the virtue of TRUE COMMITTMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solomon befikadu Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Slave is committed to do the job given to him by the master; committed to their master. Saint'root idea is being dedicated or consecrated to the service of God. Not perfect, but dedicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraldine Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Q1. A slave is one who is solely committed to another. It means a whole hearted devotion or commitment to one's master by forgetting one's personal interest but putting into the welfare of his master first. Saint is a believer who accepted Christ as their personal Lord and savior and is sanctified by the blood of Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucerobert Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Q. 1 Slave - a slave is a person who is committed for a life-time to the service of his master no matter what the consequences are. It is like a marriage as a life-time commitment and service. Saint - is a person who commit his lifetime for serving one master (i.e. Jesus Christ) for his/her whole life no matter what they face, but faithfully and gracefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abram motswana Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Slaves very committed to their Master lifetime, they are not hired so as to come and go. Saints are those who are set apart saved by the blood of Jesus ( born again Christians ).they are not perfect but dedicated and concengrated to the work of God. Therefore both slaves and saints are meaning the same thing. Rendering the same service to their Master. Abram Motswana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Grant Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Q1. (1:1) What is the basic idea of "slave"? What is the root idea of "saint"? In what way are these words saying the same thing about a Christian's relationship to God? Slaves" are committed to their Master for life. "Being dedicated or consecrated to the service of God." We are to belong and be committed to God all of our life. We are to dedicate service to God and honor him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthouse2014 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Q1. (1:1) What is the basic idea of "slave"? What is the root idea of "saint"? In what way are these words saying the same thing about a Christian's relationship to God? (Note: to answer this question correctly you'll need to refer to the notes on the precise word meanings.) Basically being a slave is serving the one who owns you. A saint is being dedicated to the service of God. Slave and saint refer basically to the same thing. When we become believers in Jesus we are filled with the Holy Spirit, we have become sacred property of God through the sacrifice of Jesus who has purchased us by his death and resurrection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducminh Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 The word “slave” in the context of Paul’s letter to Christian churches means “servant” of Christ Jesus. Being a servant of the Lord Jesus, he has the duty to preach the Gospel; it is not of his good will and it is not a service that he is doing to those who believe in Christ Jesus. Being a “slave of Christ Jesus”, Paul is committed for life to do the duty that the lord Jesus Christ has confided to him. The root idea of “saint” in the context of the early Christian churches comes from the Greek word “hagios”, which means “consecrated to God, holy, sacred, pious." It is almost always used in the plural, “saints.” Both words “slave” and “saint” have a common meaning that denotes “a person bought with a price paid by Christ Jesus”. Their relationship with God is for eternity because they are property of God paid by Christ Jesus with His own blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducminh Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 The word “slave” in the context of Paul’s letter to Christian churches means “servant” of Christ Jesus. Being a servant of the Lord Jesus, he has the duty to preach the Gospel; it is not of his good will and it is not a service that he is doing to those who believe in Christ Jesus. Being a “slave of Christ Jesus”, Paul is committed for life to do the duty that the lord Jesus Christ has confided to him. The root idea of “saint” in the context of the early Christian churches comes from the Greek word “hagios”, which means “consecrated to God, holy, sacred, pious." It is almost always used in the plural, “saints.” Both words “slave” and “saint” have a common meaning that denotes “a person bought with a price paid by Christ Jesus”. Their relationship with God is for eternity because they are property of God paid by Christ Jesus with His own blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klee2787 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 Slave is compulsory service to God. Compelled to speak his word and be in service unto him. Not as in bondage against ones will. But as one who is joyously given unto his service. Saint, simply put, is one who is dedicated to the service of god. Not one to be exulted, but the ordinary citizen who is committed to be in the service of our Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLeeK Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 I love how the Greek root word for slave is "doulos". I suspect that is where the modern word "doula" comes from. A doula is a hired birth assistant - not a midwife, but the person whose sole job is to cater to the laboring woman's needs. To me, that inspires images of devotion to the work, knowing the importance of it, knowing the uncertainty that can be involved with it, and knowing the level of commitment is complete. A Christian is a "slave" to God in the way that we are compelled to do His work, but joyfully and expectantly. Paul's greeting is "to all the saints in Christ Jesus"... Saint seems synonymous with "believer" - not just one who believes (because the Bible points out that even Satan "believes"), but one who has accepted and welcomed Christ into his life and is "all-in" in the relationship. Both "slave" and "saint" describe aspects of our relationship with Jesus. We are devoted and compelled to not just serve Him but delighted to be in relationship with Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRMiles Posted April 21, 2016 Report Share Posted April 21, 2016 A slave is the property of another. A slave has no free will and has obey the orders of another. A saint dedicates their life to living according to God's will by choice not force. They are both the same in that one must follow the commands of another whereas the other follows commands by choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haar Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Q1. (1:1) What is the basic idea of "slave"? What is the root idea of "saint"? In what way are these words saying the same thing about a Christian's relationship to God? A. Slave of Christ means one who is committed and dedicated to Jesus Christ One who is a saint means that he is consecreted or set apart for Christ Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD35 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 A slave is a person who is solely committed to another, to their master for life. Saint is a person being dedicated and consecrated to the service of God. This word isn't referring to your perfection. When we are "saved," when Christ's Spirit comes into our lives, we become holy. No, not perfect or perfected, but dedicated, set apart to the service of God. We are now his sacred property and off limits to profane use. Both these words are pretty much same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvoryEagle Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 A SLAVE IS THE SAME AS THE SAINT. The major difference is that the slave is slaving by chance and coercion. The Saint is slaving by compassion and especially by choice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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