MAMA Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The people were complaining,that they needed a God that they could see. So they decided to make idols out of gold jewelry and claimed that the idols brought them out of Egypt. That really angered God. We may not understand God's anger but we nmust accept it. God is in a totally different place from all mankind because He is holy, sinless, author, creator and controller of everything here on earth. If you cant except God's anger you have placed yourself above Him and have judged Him. YOU CANNOT JUDGE GOD!!!!! God really didn't need the children of Israel to fullfill the patriarchs promise(to create a new nation); because Moses was a direct descendent of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, so He was truly justified to destroy them because of their disrespect and sins. Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderella Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 the people had a golden calf built while Moses was up on Mt Sinai. they were giving false gods the glory of getting them out of Egypt. and this wasnt the only thing they had done. they had dishonored God in a major way of not believing in Him or trusting Him. In the Bible they had tested and testd god time and again. Yes, because God is a just and fair God. And He had warned the people over and over. and Moses had interceded for them many times while going through the wilderness. Yes His anger was justified. It still is today when we disobey God's word and His ways Out Father intercedes for us today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marloes Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 The people rejected God and made a golden calf. They didn't believe God so they didn't trust Him. They did trust a god they saw being made by Aaron of their own jewels. How stupid can you be? God is holy so He can't accept anything evil - expecially not a complete nation. We aren't in the position to judge God. Today (14 december) I'm reading this study again. Now I realize this: Moses was on the mountain and we can read about His communication with God. At the moment the people let Aron make the apis-bull, they didn't know the commandments yet! They didn't know the commandments yet there is one God and that they were not allowed to have other gods. They thought that God left them so they just returned to their old Egyptian apis-bull. Because of the law, we know we're sinners but they didn't have the law yet. So they were just ungratefull and impatient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patience123 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 After all that God had done for his people, bringing them out of slavery with miracles and a mighty hand, guiding them day and night, they lost their faith and loyalty very quickly when Moses was not there. They soon turned their backs on God. A loving God like a loving Father would show anger at such disloyalty.Like a naughty child-- how is that child to know right from wrong if he gets nothing but praise whatever he does! Nehemiah ch 9 vs16-18 "But you are a forgiving God gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in love" He was justified in saying he would destroy Israel, BUT he did NOT. Praise the Lord ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? Moses rescued the people from Egypt. All that God did for them, how he kept them safe, clothed, fed...they grew impatient. They still continued to treat God as a genie, someone to receive things from. Someone to keep them entertained. They were never satisfied. Moses, being who he was, defended these people before God, yet they still didn't fully respect him. When he went to receive the 10 Commandments, they became restless. They demanded that Aaron make something to worship. Aaron, being pressured, obeyed. They worshiped the idol he made and took away God's rightful place. Without even knowing, they were breaking His commandments. They resorted back to their sinful ways. God knows all. He knows everyone's true hearts. He knew that the people were not changing. He knew they were not truly repenting. He understood that they were captive for so long, that the didn't realize what it actually felt or meant to be free. The people disrespected Him, they kept they're sinful natures. God was angry, He was furious with them. He saved them, freed them, but still they refused to repent. They continued to disobey. Because He loved them so much, He was hurt by their actions, and words. God knew how these people would be. He knew that it would be better to destroy them and start over from Moses, who was devoted to Him. However, Moses points out that God should not be baited by the sin that they have in their lives. God Hates sin because it takes Him away from us. It is the only thing besides our choice that can have Him move away from us. Being angry enough to threaten to wipe them out, says how much He really cared for them, and how much they angered Him. Moses also knew the nature of God. He knew that God was a caring,loving, freeing God. That He wanted to save rather then destroy. Moses protected the people from the wrath of God. Moses was able to calm Him down enough, to not let His emotion dictate His actions. I think that God would have been justified in his decision to destroy them at that point. They were defying him on purpose. Moses saved them on numerous occasions. However, I also think that the people had many chances to repent and lead a different life, but they continued to choose to be enslaved by sin. Today, God would not punish us for sin. Because of Jesus, we are saved from the wrath of God. We still need to do our part in order to secure our proper place in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abimbola Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? I believe that the people of Israel at the time did not realy acknoledge God, rather they saw a way out not minding who's leading them. This made it difficult to recognise and accept the authority of God. Prior to this time there was no record of worshipping this God. The raising of the calf was a proof. In anger, reasoning does not apply. God may be angry does not act wwithout reason. He is SOVERIGN. Humanly speaking one may reason that God is justified but in this case God is God. He is Sovreign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity Posted May 9, 2010 Report Share Posted May 9, 2010 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The bad that the people did was to have an idol created so that they could worship it, they wanted to see something instead of feeling God's love (holyspirit). God can be angry with us if we choose to spend time worshipping other things (eg. TV, Music, Work) and not spend time with Him. This is a perfect example of why God was angry with the Israelits for worshipping an Idol instead of Him. Yes, because God is a just God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted June 6, 2010 Report Share Posted June 6, 2010 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The people had made a physical image of a god which is pure idolatry. Instead of acknowledging God as their Saviour from Egypt, they gave all the honour to the lifeless calf. Throughout Scripture we read about Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerneydr Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? They have replaced a living God for a dead god/ idol made after their own image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCH Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? What had the people done that was so bad? They were stubborn and disobedient. They made an idol in the shape of a calf and worshipped the calf, calling it god. They gave "credit" to the idol for their deliverance from Egypt when it was God who rescued them. How can a loving God be angry? His love for us is so great that is why He is angry when we sin. He is a holy God and a sinful life is the complete oppostite of who He is and what He stands for. The wages of sin is death. His anger is to make us aware of the judgment that is awaiting us if we continue to lead evil lives. Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? Yes He is God - it is His perogative. Moses is a direct descendent of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If God destroyed Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses, His promise to the patriarchs would still be fulfilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerneydr Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? What had the people done that was so bad? They made a calf out of hard, cold gold and said this is our God. It was something they could get their minds around. Something they were more comfortable with. It was rejecting the TRUE and ETERNAL CREATOR GOD and substituting Him for something lifeless and worthless. They didn't even know God well enough to realize just how offensive that was to Him. How can a loving God be angry? God is love but He is also holy. His anger is righteous indignation. Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? Of course, He is God. He is Creator of all that exist including defining what is right and what is wrong. Apart from HIM there is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seer Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 What did the Isrealites do wrong? After God protected them from plagues, delivered them from slavery in Egypt, gave them the gold of their captors, miraculously parted the Red Sea for them to cross, provided daily food and water, and even clothes and shoes that did not wear out...you would think they might be at least a little grateful. But no, they whined and complained about almost everything, including Moses' leadership. Then, in a final insult to the Almighty God, as soon as Moses was out of sight upon the mountain, they had Aaron fashion a new god, a golden calf, out of the very gold God had provided them. No wonder God was angry! (Unfortunately, it seems that even in modern-day America, blessed as we have been, our behavior is much the same). How can a loving God be angry? I think His anger stemmed from His great love for these people He himself had created, as well as His complete holiness. Nobody can make me as angry as the people I care most deeply about. If I read in the newspaper of some evil deed done by a stranger, I shake my head in wonder or disgust, then go about my business. But if a dear friend or family member of mine is involved, I may fume for days (and sometimes nights too). There is no end to my distress until something is resolved. Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? Yes, entirely. Moses was not without fault, but he obeyed God when no one else would. He had a yearning to know God on a personal level. And since he was a descendent of Abraham, he could father a new nation in fulfillment of God's promise that Abraham's seed would produce a great nation. I agree. Some additions: Q1: "out of the very gold God had provided them". This is an interesting take on the gold. God did give them the permission to carry their possessions, and that of the Egyptians'. There was another post that said "They essentially brought symbols of the idolatry of Egypt with them on their journey to the promised land. And now they were worshipping the gods of Egypt." This is another interesting view on the gold also. Q2: "Do not worship any other god, for the Lord , whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." (Exodus 34:14). God is angry because He is jealous for His creation, that no one might perish, but have everlasting life. His jealousy and anger is because of love, how true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dez Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? THE PEOPLE WORSHIPPED A GOLDEN IMAGE. OUR GOD SAYS HE IS A JEALOUS GOD.YEA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noksidam Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The people made a false god in the form of an animal and worshiped it, even if they already knew that it was forbidden and that God is a jealous god: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noemi Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The people made God angry by not keeping the covenant they promised to keep, they became impatient, committed idolatry and fornication. God is a loving God and his anger is a righteous one that shows that something has gone wrong and must be corrected for the sake of survival. In God's sentence to destroy Israel and rise up a new nation through Moses shows me that for God nothing is impossible and that we did not choose God, but that He in his loving mercy chose us.God's anger is provoked when His Holiness is assaulted by the acts of rebellion. Gods anger doesnt go away it can be redirected or delayed,but it will express itself.God's justice is not an optional pruduct of His will. But an unchangeable principle of His very nature.(Ps.89:14)Righteousness and Justice are the foundation of your throne. Unfailing love and thruth walk before you as attendants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Flores Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 What had the people done that was so bad? The people created a molten claf and declared this god who brought them out of the land of Egypt. How can a loving God be angry? God has the very right to be angry because Israel substitued Him with another god and credit His work to this false god. Our God is a True God and will not allow lies to rule His creation. Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? Yes, God's sentence is justified. He created the heaven and the earth. God created the man to have dominion on earth and tend it. God will not allow sinful man believing in false god to populate and have dominion on earth. God has destroyed and raise new nations during Noah's time and has all the right to do this every time He sees the righteous men are becoming less and less in the face of the earth. God is a loving God and eternal. He won't allow the next generation men to populate the earth believing in lies and a false god. God is the creator of the Heaven and the Earth. He alone decides what is justified or not. He decides what is good and what is evil which is why He forbid man to take fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil from the very beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary58 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? I don't think they so much rebelled, as forgot. (If they had rebelled that would have had to be against something real and they no longer thought of God as real.) Even though they had seen the power of their one God in the plagues in Egypt, deliverance from Egypt they stopped trusting and believing in him (who they could not see) just because the human leader was now (and for 40 days) out of sight. They don't know if Moses will ever return and they confused Moses with God and felt abandoned. Their prayer could have been "bring us a new leader" but instead they turned from God Himself. God loves his nation and anger at their rejection is entirely justified. If he didn't love them, he wouldn't have been angry. The sentence isn't "justified" as, since there is no covenant yet by which to measure justice, there can't be justice. But his sentence is fair, and common sense. His promise was to the nation, not to this particular generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiKosum Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? They blasphemed God by worshipping a golden calf which they asked Aaron to craft for them. The Israelites utterly rebelled against God by substituting idols and attributing God's salvation to those idols. This is treason against the Monarch. This is rebellion. And rebellion is sin. God's anger at sin can't be understood apart from his own holiness, his separateness from sin, his nature utterly opposed to injustice, sin, and human degradation. Our sins offend God's very character. "Let those who love the LORD hate evil" (Psalm 97:10a). God tells Moses that he will destroy the nation of Israel, and reconstruct the nation from Moses' own offspring. God had destroyed mankind once and restarted it with Noah and his descendants (Genesis 6-8). I believe God's sentence was justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusting God Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? Moses has been on Mt Sinai with God for forty days and nights receiving from God the terms of the Ten Commandments. While Moses the people become impatient. They demand that Aaron make visible gods Aaron fashions a gold calf from their gold earrings. What the people did that was so bad was: 1. They did not reverence God when they wanted and made the golden calf. 2. It was not God who brought them out of Egypt, not Moses. 3. They blasphemed God. How can a loving God be angry? In the Scriptures, I Peter 1:16 talks of God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostbutchosen Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The people of israel turned away from their faith in GOD and built a idol a golden calf that they worshiped and made burnt offerings to and even went as far as to say this idol is what delivered us from Pharoh. This is a total sin and really a slap in the face to the LORD or GOD. Just like a just loving earthly father can get angry when we disobey him. Why then and who are we to Question are GOD who is the creator of all and master of all on earth and in heaven. Of course GODs sentence is justified. HIS will be done he would still fullfill his promise through moses. The Isrealites were lucky to have Moses intercede for them his punishment was just with out any doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycin Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? How can a loving God be angry? Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? The people of Israel gave up on Moses as their leader and had Aaron make a golden calf as an idol to worship as their god. God was furious, however, because He is a jealous God. There is to be no other God but Him. Also, He is the God of justice and wrath. He is holy and cannot be in the presence of sin and sin must be punished if there is no repentance. God is not justified in raising up a new nation through Moses because He had made a covenant with Abraham and Isaac that their descendants were the ones to multiply and fill the land of Canaan as promised. God could not break His covenant but He was looking for someone to stand in the gap for them and Moses did just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onerivertrail Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 The people had rejected a loving God who had delivered them out of Egypt. They chose to make a god for themselves that they could see and touch. They made an object of no worth or power their god. Our God is a jealous God and given to anger under such circumstances. His intention to destroy this people who He had done so much for is understandable. God keeps a clean house on earth as He does in heaven. Moses prayed for the people but God was justified to say He could keep his promise by starting again with people just through Moses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross_laoshi Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Q1. Read Exodus 32:1-14. What had the people done that was so bad? The people had broken the first commandment, by making an idol and worshiping it. They had mixed the worship of God with the idol worhip and pagan revelary of Egypt. How can a loving God be angry? God is a jelous God, and will have no other god's before Him. Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified? Yes it's justified, because the people had so quickly turned away from the way the Lord had commanded them to live. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathFinder51 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 What had the people done that was so bad?  Because Moses had spent so much on the mountain, the people had gotten real worried. So, instead of exercising patience, they made a golden calf and They bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.'   How can a loving God be angry?  God's anger at sin; His nature is utterly opposed to injustice, sin, and human degradation. It goes totally against God's holiness or his mercy.  Is God's sentence to destroy Israel and raise up a new nation through Moses justified?  Yes. God called the Israelites "stiff-necked" people. They had disobeyed God and worshiped an idol. But Moses, in his pleading for God's mercy, reminded Him of His promise to Abraham, Isaac and Israel concerning their descendants entering the promised land: " . . . to whom you swore by your own self:  "I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever." (Exodus 14:13) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathFinder51 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 "And I myself will fight against you with an outstretched hand and with a strong arm, even in anger, and in fury, and in great wrath." (Jeremiah 21:5) God's anger is brought about due to man's constantly turning away from HIm. Man is corrupt, sinful, evil from birth and the only way to bridge the gap is through confession of sin and asking forgiveness.  But God is also merciful. As the scriptures say: He is "good, ready to forgive, and abundant in mercy ...full of compassion, and gracious, longsuffering." (Psalm 86:5,15) "The Lord is longsuffering and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression."(Numbers 14:18) There are dozens of passages which speak of God's mercy as enduring, constant, never ceasing. "His mercy endures for ever." (2 Chronicles 5:13, Psalms 100:5, 118:29, 135:3)  God has no desire to punish anyone. "I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked." (Ezekiel 33:11) When He does tolerate evil it is because He sees that good can come from it. As Joseph said after his brothers betrayed him, "You thought evil against me, but God meant it for good." (Genesis 50:20)  Don't temp fate. Stay true to God's precepts, pray for forgiveness, and stay in the word.  "…casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you. Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world. (1 Peter 5:7-9)  The only way to protect yourself from God allowing the devil to have his way with you is to put on The Armor of God (Ephesians 6:10-18) 10 "Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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