Bob E Jones Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Daniel takes ownership in the sins of Israel, he is apart of Israel, he is a servant. He feels the grief and is overwhelmed with the burden what has taken place present and past. The difference between Daniel and Jesus: Jesus bore the sins of all mankind upon his shoulders, where as for Daniel a prophet carries the burden for man, he stands in the gap, between man and God understanding he has to do the will of the Lord, yet he understands the weakness, and the inability of man to carry those burdens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunilbernard Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commitment them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? This was a great revelation to me. That we have to own the sin of the person on whose behalf we are interceding. That is getting into the thick of the action. Even though I may not be a drunkard or a rapist, I have to become one in the sight of God, by taking the ownership of the sins committed by the person we are interceding for. Its a great responsibility to make intereceding prayers even as we compare our Lord Jesus, who became sinful even though he was without sin and blemish. When we see what kind of punishment our Lord endured because He became sinful for our sake, it's painfulness and sacrifice cannot be compared. Its too great a responsibility. May the Lord give us the burden to shoulder such great responsiblity to strive to get one back slidden person to the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEIRDRE INAMDAR Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commitment them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel wants his people to come into a relationship with the Living God and he knows their sin keeps them away He is willing to stand in the gap for his people and identify with the sins of his people so that God forgives and has mercy. Jesus our Lord died on our behalf.He was the perfect Lamb of God that was slain for our sins.He was sinless but He took our sins on Himself.Daniel identified with the sins of his people, Jesus took the sin of all mankind and died so that we might live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grace Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation , why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? 1. I believe, that, like the body of believers in a local church, we are all part of that one body (1Cor.12:12). When any one of that body falls into sin, we take that burden upon ourself to intercede on behalf of that brother or sister who was overtaken in a fault. We then who are spiritual, seek to restore our brother/sister back into the body. How does this compare with how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? 2. IN the book of Hebrews we are told that, "He likewise took upon himself flesh and blood , that through death, He might destroy him that hath the power of death, that is the devil, who through all their lifetime were subject to bondage, in order to set us free". Jesus never sinned , but was willing to take upon him our sins in His body upon a tree, that we being dead to sins, might live unto righteousness. Jesus so loved us that He was willing to take upon Himself our weaknesses in the flesh, to bring about our deliverance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Stanley Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Yes ,Daniel was a righteous man,but in Daniel's prayer for the nation he confessed his own sins.Daniel said"WE".Daniel did not look at the nation and blame them for the sins commited,he confessed his sinfulness,and the need for Gods forgiveness for all."We" need your forgiveness "Oh God",have mercy on us.Daniel humbled himself.Daniel put himself in the same place the people were in,pleading to God for them and himself,for forgiveness..Jesus,took on all the sins of the world.Jesus put his self in our place.He suffered for us.It seems Daniel was willing to suffer with the people of the nation if God did not deliever them even though he was a rightous man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaZ Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commitment them. Daniel identified himself with the nation of Israel and therefore he recognised that he was, as Pastor Ralph points out, "part of a sinful nation in the same way that a member of the human race bears guilt because of Adam's sin (Romans 5:12-21)." Therefore he took on their sin as his own and sincerely repented in a gut-wrenching manner. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Jesus who was pure and without any sin took our sins on Himself on the cross and died so that the price for our sin would be paid in the only way it was possible and just to do so. He was blameless, yet in His great love for us He went through something so horrible we cannot really imagine, so that we could be free if we choose to be through a relationship with Him. Amazing love! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masika Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 In Daniel's prayer for the Nation he confessed his own sin , using the pronoun we throughout .In times of adverity , it's easy to blame others and excuse our own actions. If any Israelite was righteous , it was Daniel , and yet he confessed his sinnfulness and need for God's forgiveness. Instead of looking for others to blame , first we should examine ourself and confess our sins to God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 A righteous person is such because that person can see and deal with their sin. Daniel was such a person, a man of prayer who sought to be a friend of God. He realized that his people were not in a position to deal with their sin and he was simply because he could admit that it existed. Daniel knew what it would take to have God move on the prophecy of the restoration of the Hebrews to their homeland and he was willing to take upon him the humility and deprivation necessary to accomplish the task. Our Lord Jesus knew that for us to be forgiven He has to offer Himself as our sacrifice. There is similarity here but no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelOnLine Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? Because of his love for the people of Israel. He didn't commitment them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? He was willing to take on their sins and petition God for their salvation. Jesus sought forgiveness for His people in the same way and because of His love for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Liles Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 Daniel (in line with Ezekiel and other prophets) stands in the gap for his nation by identifying with his people. He lives in a land that has committed these sins. In order for him to pray he identifies with them as a sinner. He feels the weight of the burden of sin and out of love for the nation and for righteousness, he intercedes. This is similar to what Jesus did. He identified himself as the "son of man" fully understanding mankind's need for forgiveness. Jesus "stood in the gap" for us because He identified with us and because of His love for humans. Interceders must have that same kind of love today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsy Laycoax Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Daniel identifies himself with the sins of the people in order that he could intercede for them. It isn't the same as what Jesus did for us in that Jesus took our sin upon his own body on the cross but Daniel took their sin upon his own conscience in order to plead for divine mercy for all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelly1728 Posted March 8, 2007 Report Share Posted March 8, 2007 Because Daniel WAS a righteous man, he DID own up in humility any connection he had with the sin of his people, even if it was only bearing the original sin of Adam and tendency towards those same sins. He was able to identify with the people and their sin in such a way that he became a foreshadowing of Christ as our intercessor today. And seeing that all the people did not humble themselves, he did it for them to show the need for a mediator, and to fulfill the requirements of God's mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioned Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. As Daniel prayed, he identified himself with the sins of his people so that he can intercede for them. He felt the grief and the burden. This allowed him to intercede for the nation with a heavy heart. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Jesus also bore the sin of the world upon himself when he went to the cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancychua Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? 1). Daniel is righteous because of his love for Israel made him willing to take on the sin of the nation. He intercede for all the people , for every sin committed and baring the soul of Israel. he became a foreshadowing of Christ as our intercessor. Seeing that all people did not humble themselves, he did it for them to show the need for a mediator, and to fulfill the requirements of God's mercy. 2). Daniel is like all human eing born of sin and Jesus was conceived by the HS without sin. Jesus sought the ultimate sacrifice for the people so that mankind might be saved by offering his own life. He died on the cross and rose again in fulfillment for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plethra Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel is part of a nation of sinners. He places himself in the middle of all that is wrong and feels the grief anf burden of those sins so that he can earnstly pray and ask for forgiveness for his people. Jesus who was without sin also took on the sins of the world so that we could be saved. Though He never sinned He took on the sins of the world. The righteous sacrifice for the unrighteous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted December 12, 2007 Report Share Posted December 12, 2007 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel identifies with the sins of his people because he is a part of the sinful nation that He is intercessing for, despite his own personal righteousness. Daniel identifies with the sins of his people, but he doesn't take on the sins of the people like Jesus Christ did. The sinless Jesus Christ took on, and became sin and paid the subsequent price for that sin. His sacrifice was for the forgiveness of the sin of humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Because He know that the sin is on all the people, and as an Isrealite he is a part of the sin of the people. He being a servant of God knows that to be right with God He must interceed for them before God and seek everyone's forgiveness. He prays because they are family and as family he feels a part in their sin and unrightousness. Jesus died that all would be saved not just the Jews and Daniel was praying just for Isreal I would say that Jesus far surpassed Daniel since He died for Daniels sins also no matter how miner, Scripture state that all have sin and fallen short of God's glory so Daniel needed Jesue justlike the rest of us. Daniel's prayer was a prayer of a rightous man but still needs Jesus to answer it for any kind of forgiveness to come from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nina Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel took on the sins of his people as his asking God for forgiveness. He makes no excuse, he just pleads for forgiveness for a nation who has not listened to the prophets. He accepted the sins of his nation so he could ask for forgiveness for them. Jesus did not commit sins but took on the sins of the world and gave his life that we may have salvation, forgiveness of sins, and eternal life. Daniel is similar to Jesus but Jesus paid the ultimate price for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4-1god Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel was praying for a nation to which he belonged, and so, he needed to include himself in his prayer. He took ownership. While Daniel included himself in his prayer for his nation, Jesus gave His life for all who would accept salvation and believe in Him. All God's children are a nation-a people. As brothers and sisters in Christ, we are God's nation! Jesus' death was meant to bring a nation to God! Gloray! We are a nation! No matter where we are, no matter what color aour skin is, no matter what ethnic group we belong to-we are a nation!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordwoman Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? He identifies himself because he realizes he must take ownership of the sins of the nation simply because he belongs to that nation. Jesus sought forgiveness for His people because He came to earth as a man even though He was the Son of God...He took ownership of our sins as the Great Intercessor...bringing salvation for all by faith in Him. Daniel also was an intercessor for his nation, but did not take on the sins of his people, he simply acted as an intercessor and brought them before God. Daniel is the image of a righteous man...Jesus is image of the Lord our Righteousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He was a member of the nation of Israel which had sinned greatly. He was a humble and righteous man who recognized that he was a sinner, though one who had not rebelled and worshipped idols, but still, he interceded for his nation identifying with those who have sinned greatly. He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Jesus did not sin in any way, yet He became the curse for my sins, dying on the cross in order to remove the curse from me. Daniel interceded on behalf of the nation, imploring God to be merciful and to remember His promises to them. While Jesus interceded then laid down His life to impart God's mercy to save me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickJW Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel was sent by God, he had a mission as a prophet. Daniel was even given leadership positions under the Babylonian captors of the Jews. He knew that he had a special relationship with God, and with his gifts, he was also given responsibilities to the Israelites - as well as to God. He, Daniel, feels that he is a part of the body that is the Israelite people, and therefore, he is a part of the people who have sinned against their God. We must learn from this if we would intercede on the behalf of our family, church, city or nation, that we are not apart from the problem, but are a part of the problem - and by performing intercession we become part of the solution. This compares with Jesus seeking forgiveness for His people, in that Jesus took on their burdens and suffering. Jesus' last thoughts as He died on the cross were for forgiveness of the very people who had Him put to death. As Jesus lead a life that was free from sin, Daniel had also lived a life that was righteous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olutoyin Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel took upon himself the sins of the nation because of the love of his people, he is a royalty in Isreal, he belongs to the ruling party. He owned up to the sins of the nation, it is his nation too, he was interceding on his people's behalf. There is always someone to stand in the gap,God make provision for that all the time, it was Daniel to do it then so God prepared him though he didn't sin. Daniel was not sinless like Jesus, Jesus offered himself up for our sins. He bore the punishment for what we deserved. God made provision for us too, so Jesus did the final sacrifice and said it was finished on the cross. Jesus is God in the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csreeves Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? If we are to intercede as Daniel did it is important for us not to think of us as exempt from sin instead we are to take the very nature of servent being made in human likeness and being found in the appearance as a man. Jesus was sinless yet took on our sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel realises that he is a sinner himself, though he is a righteous man, and also that he needs to confess his sins so that he can stand before God in intercession, just as Christ took the sins of the world upon His shoulders. Jesus was innocent yet He took the sins of the world upon Himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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