Daff Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? I think in some ways it is necessary to feel the pain no matter what the cause, that a person or nation is feeling. This way we can relate to them in prayer whether it be sickness or sin. Jesus took all our sins, sicknesses, diseases upon himself on the cross and through this we have been forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warring Hands Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 DANIEL WAS VERY MUCH APART OF THIS NATION HE WAS INTERCEEDING FOR AND SO HE APPROACHED GOD FROM THE POINT OF STANDING IN THE GAP FOR THIS NATIOSO THAT HE COULD EFFECTIVELY INTERCEED FOR THEM. DANIEL'S WAY OF STANDING IN THE GAP WAS SIMILAR TO THAT OF JESUS EXCEPT THAT JESUS BORE OUR SINS IN HIS BODY FROM HEAD TO TOE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sofia Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? [/quot I don't know fully what this means. But surely it means that intercession is costly. Daniel doesn't take on sin in the sense that Jesus did, bearing other's sins on his body on the cross . But Daniel is part of a sinful nation in the same way that a member of the human race bears guilt because of Adam's sin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAMA Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his peo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAMA Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel identify hiself with the sins of his people because we inherited sin from Adam and Eve fall in the garden. Though Daniel is considered a righteous man of his time. He knows that as a intercessor he must take on the sins his people. You cannot compare what Jesus did on the cross to Daniels' intercession for his people. Jesus became flesh and gave his life as a sacrifice for our sins, sicknesses and diseases. I guess you can say they are somewhat similar because both Jesus and Daniel showed compassion for their fellow man. Patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patience123 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Although Daniel was such a righteous man in his generation, he sees that when God gave the law to Moses, one of the laws was that a sin commited would effect suffering down to the 3rd and 4th generations. Daniel saw in his and his people's suffering that this was apparent. He loved his country and shared in its guilt. I think that truly righteous people never feel righteous, they are conscious of their own shortcomings and the deep chasm between God and man. So with Jesus, he was without sin, yet took on the sins of others because of his lovefor his father God and love of his people Israel. He knew what God wanted of him---------not my will, but thy will be done. He gave up his life and asked his Father to forgive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Daniel knew God judjement and therefore interceded for the people. He knows that he(daniel) was rightous and the unrightous people would not repent. He put himself in front of the people asking God for forgiveness and mercy for the people of Israel. Jesus knew of our sins that why He came and put Himself in the frontline for us. Why? because we(people) are blind in our sins. We are comfortable living in our daily sins.(remember the days of Noah and Lot) Jesus who has no sins came and broke Himself, took our sins upon Himself so that we can be free and have everlasting life (thank you Jesus). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commitment them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel prays earnestly and acknowledges the greatness and goodness of God. Daniel identifies himself with the sins of Israel; he confesses we and not they. He realises that compared to God we all fall short, and he himself is a sinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCH Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. Daniel was overwhelmed and burdened by the sins of his people. Even though he was not the one who sinned he was a part of the nation which did. He took ownership of the sins to repent on behalf of the nation. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel interceded for his nation but he did not take their sins upon himself. He was not a sinless man. Jesus on the other hand was sinless. However he took ALL our sins upon himself and died in our place to save and redeem us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerneydr Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He cares and loves his people and doesn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerneydr Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. Daniel loved God and he loved the people of God. He wanted to see the two in a right relationship. At this point in history the children of Israel were in captivity as a punishment for their sins of idolatry. He saw in God's Word that the Lord said the captivity would last 70 years. That time was almost up. He desired to see a restoration of him people to their land, but more than that a restoration to the in the covenant with the true and living God. He believed 2 Chronicles 7:14 "If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Jesus was not part of the problem of sinful man. Yet out of love, He became one of us so that He could intercede for us and yes, even die a horrible death to redeem us. He sacrificed His life for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trusting God Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. Daniel identifies himself with the sins of his people, because he is interceding for them to save them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Jesus and Daniel both interceded for their people in order to save them from the wrath of sin they rightly deserved. Humbly they both come to God carrying a heavy load, and they both take ownership for the sins of others so that they can intercede for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycin Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? This passage reminds me of the Christian rally "Stand in the Gap" a few years back in Washington, D.C. Organizers called on Christians to come together to pray and intercede for our country. They were asked to "stand in the gap" (identify themselves with the entire nation) for those who had sinned and not stood up for what is right. So even today, it is beneficial to identify myself with the "sinners" just as Daniel did. They are not likely to ask forgiveness for their wrongdoing but I can be repentant so that can God's mercy can rain down and heal the land, rescuing us from our sins and the devastating consequences. Christ also identified with the sinners when he sought forgiveness from them on the cross. However, He went the next step and took their sins. All a "sinner" like me had to do was accept His forgiveness, already given, and I would know His grace and mercy. I must be truly repentant but, praise God, I have the greatest intercessor of all who has already won the battle for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onerivertrail Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? Daniel was an intercessor as well a prophet for God's people. He stood as a righteous man before God and confessed their sins. God hears the prayers of a righteous person and Daniel knew his God. Jesus came so that He might become the ultimate sacrifice before God the Father for the sins of every person. He gave His life and His blood was available to cover the sins of all who would look for this covering. Jesus covered us with His own blood and Daniel cover the people with the prayers of a righteous man before God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanG Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Daniel knows that he personally has some faults. However, he takes on the sins of all the people. He feels that he has to be a responsible one. He hopes that his honesty and humility will win the grace of God for all the people. He was very selfless in his praying. Jesus had a true love for people. He wanted to show them how to live. He wanted them to have the best. But he saw the sinful nature that man really has. he knew that without his help, we would never find our way back to God. So he sacrificed himself to save us. He took all of our sins upon himself and took them a far way away from us. He opened the gates of heaven to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Jerry Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Daniel identifies himself with the sins of his people so that he isn’t blaming everything on somebody else. He wanted God to know that he is interceding for the people. The way that this is compared to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people is that Jesus did not sin but still took all of our sins to the cross. Daniel probably sinned because the bible says that we all have sinned and he was stating that he was involved in the people’s sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konki Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Daniel confesses his own sins,though he has no sin charged against him. Yet Daniel identifies himself with the sins of his people, intercedes with God for forgiveness and restoration. Jesus was the perfect lamb sacrificed for our sins. He was sinless but took our sins on himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Tavaziva Posted March 1, 2020 Report Share Posted March 1, 2020 In Daniel’s prayer for the nation he confessed his own sin, using the pronoun we throughout. In times of adversity, it’s easy to blame others and excuse our own actions. If any Israelite was righteous, it was Daniel; and yet he confessed his sinfulness and need for God’s forgiveness. Instead of looking for others to blame, first examine yourself and confess your own sins to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gladwyn charles Posted March 3, 2021 Report Share Posted March 3, 2021 3a. The essence in the sincerity of Daniel's prayer is in his character.He is a righteous man living in the fear of the Lord keeping his commands and meditating daily in his words and in prayer.The banishment and desolation is the consequence from years and years of rebellion and disobedience by his people.Though he is not directly responsible as a member of the Jewish nation he shared collective responsibility.Daniel in now asking for God's intervention has made himself the bridge between the righteous, just and merciful God and sins of the Jewish nation. Daniel as the intercessor is the high priest for the nation.As the high priest he must bear the responsibility of the nation's sin. 3b. Daniel's approach can be compared with how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people sin as Jesus died for the salvation of mankind. The similarity is in that Daniel by taking on the responsibility for a nation's sin through prayer and Jesus by giving up his life for all mankind. Both became innocent sacrifices.Both were righteous men. Their acts were selflessly done from pure love of God. Daniel took personal responsibility for the sins of the Jewish nation that caused their exile and the desolation of Jerusalem so that he can become the intercessor for God to show mercy to end their captivity and for the restoration of Jerusalem.Jesus by his wounds and stripes heal us and by his crucifixion on Calvary's Cross gain the redemption of our sins and our salvation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Wolf Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Q3. (9:5) Since Daniel is such a righteous man in his generation, why does he identify himself with the sins of his people? He didn't commit them. How does this compare to how Jesus sought forgiveness for his people? He was righteous. He was part of a generation of his people. Since he was righteous, that aspect of his life: part of the sinning generation -- he could not stand that chunk of unrighteousness in his character, in his daily awareness -- drove him to repent for all of the people. Daniel realized that he was no better than the worst sinner of the lot. Similar to Jesus becoming the atonement for all, but different in that Jesus had committed no sin. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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