Pastor Ralph Posted February 9, 2003 Report Share Posted February 9, 2003 Q2. Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? What is the difference between capricious or uncontrolled anger and anger that brings about justice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darleen Nelson Posted March 8, 2003 Report Share Posted March 8, 2003 Sin is a deliberate act of disobedience and must therefore cause anger in a righteous, loving God. When a law or even a person's wishes are deliberately ignored over and over anger is a natural reaction. God had a solution for those who disobeyed and was willing to provide foregiveness to them. God's love and mercy are wonderful and we benefit fromt hemw hen we respond and give glory to Him. Righteous anger is not uncontroleld or capricious but is meted out as due to the person who has broken the law and is not done with sudden anger but with a controlled anger that is explained and should be expected. If you break a natural law you know there are consequences and this is also true of God's law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peggie Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Anger is a response to sin because sin offends God....sin offends most PEOPLE as well, therefore making them angry. If we harm someone in a relationship whether it be family or friendship, they feel betrayed which in turn causes sorrow and anger. Controlled anger can be compared to a legal judge sitting on a bench. The one standing before him/her may have consequences to pay, but that does not mean the judge loses his/her temper at them, they just sadly enforce the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelda huffman Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Sin angers God, he is not angry with the person themselves. Anger leads to doing things wrong or sin Our Lord is a compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfullness and loves all no matter what, he forgives our sins when we turn to him, he doesn't let the quilty go unpunished. When we ask him for forgiveness and help to change the way we are he answers, because he loves us and wants us to be the best we can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? For this is a Christian responsibility. Anger stirred up by pride is wrong, but to be stirred up over sin is not. what is the difference? Anger is often but not always a sin, it is not wrong to be stirred up by unrighteousness, Christ also acted out of righteous anger, but He did not loose His temper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Z_Squad Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Hi Everyone- Jesus, showed us that righteous anger was appropriate to disobedience. You can look to the times He ejected the money changers from the temple. Anger when directed to correct is love. Capricious or uncontrolled anger, is usually vindictive. The anger is not to correct in love but to hurt, demean, or both. It is for your own pride or ego. -/ Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Beckner Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 As a mother, I know the dissappointment of a rebellious child. I also know how hard it is to punish that child but know it must be done for the child's own good. It is not done out of anger but rather love when instruction has failed. God chastens those He loves to help us overcome the things we do wrong. I am thankful for that chastening. As believers though, I believe that anger does not have a part in the Christian walk. [Galatians 5: 16-22.] We are called to peace, not to judge and be angry. Eph. 4:26&31, Col. 3: 8, 1Tim.2:8, James 1: 19-20 I must live in patience and sorrow for sin and have that humble spirit so that I am not overcome with anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealing Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 God's very nature indicates that He could not possibly accept or overlook sin. Since His very nature is pure, He must hate sin and respond with righteous anger. This is the anger that is pure. It does not hold malice, spite, or revenge. It is to give us, His followers, knowledge that we have sinned, then gives us the opportunity to repent, and covers that sin with the very blood of Jesus Christ. I think it is very different than most of the anger that we, as people experience. Our anger is usually unjust and contains some degree of malice. This is evidenced when we get angry with another driver on the road, our children for being annoying, or our spouse for just ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer58 Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Here are my answers to today's questions: a. According to Webster anger is "A violent passion of the mind excited by a real or supposed injury...". (BTW, the Hebrew and Greek words translated as anger run along the same lines). While we are very ready to be angry at some harm done to us or someone close to us, we must have that same, or even an increased anger towards sin because, if for no other reason, sin is an offense to the God who created us. b. Our anger often results in uncontrolled, unreasonable response; i'e', the 'crimes of passion' that we read about all too often. And while we may often control ourselves enough to reason out an appropriate response in proportion to our perception of the nature of the offense, God ALWAYS responds appropriately in accordance with His already revealed nature. We have no excuse! We know the nature of God, we know the expectations he has of us. We know what the results of failure to meet those expectations must be. Thankfully, we can also know the One to deliver us from God's righteous response to our sin. Thank you Jesus! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Lindwall Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Hello Everyone I believe anger to be an appropriate response to behavior that threatens the order of peace and love that God intended from the very beginning. God has always been angry with sin and disobedience, because He is totally without sin, therefore unable to tolerate anything less than perfection. God's anger has always led to reform and restoration of peace and order. The Old Testament is the story of God's continued efforts to guide His people back into a loving relationship to Himself. God's righteous anger led to His many efforts to accomplish this, ultimately to the giving of His Son as a supreme sacrifice that would result in the restoration of mankind. Capricious and uncontrolled anger is a passion without any control whatsoever.......a violence that is cautioned against in Galatians 5:19, 20. This kind of anger solves no problems, only creates more problems in it's wake. Righteous anger stays within the boundaries of love, creates an atmosphere in which positive change can take place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobug Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Anger is a respones to sin Because sin offends God and his people.Jesus got angery at the money changers in the temple .And had a good cause to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineB Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Anger would be a natural response to someone sinning. A sin will ultimately cause injustice to another person or to yourself. I know that I get "angry with myself" when I sin. Jesus takes that sin away when I confess, and I can let go of the anger. Anger when injustices are made, is a healthy anger that can propel us into action to eleviate the injustice. Being angry without being able to change the behavior, is to me a waste of energy. Uncontrolled anger, is generally not constructive, and would cause more sin to happen. Blessings upon our understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Maher Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? What is the difference between capricious or uncontrolled anger and anger that brings about justice? As I was looking for an answer to the above question, I came accross the following information that I thought answered the question very well. It compares wrath (God's anger directed against sin) to anger. The personal manifestation of God's holy, moral character in judgment against sin. Wrath is neither an impersonal process nor is it irrational and fitful like anger. It is in no way vindictive or malicious. It is holy indignation-God's anger directed against sin.God's wrath is an expression of His holy love. If God is not a God of wrath, His love is no more than frail, worthless sentimentality; the concept of mercy is meaningless; and the Cross was a cruel and unnecessary experience for His Son. The Bible declares that all people are "by nature children of wrath" (Eph 2:3) and that "the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness" (Rom 1:18). Since Christians have been "justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him" (Rom 5:9). The magnitude of God's love is manifested in the Cross, where God's only Son experienced wrath on our behalf. "The day of the Lord's wrath" (Zeph 1:18) is identical with "the great day of the Lord" (Zeph 1:14). These terms refer to "the wrath of the Lamb" (Rev 6:16), Jesus Christ, that will fall on the ungodly at His Second Coming (1 Thess 1:10; 5:9; 2 Thess 1:7-10). (from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright ©1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaunita Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Hello! Again, after reading the response's, already posted, I agree with most. "Why is anger an appropriate response to sin?" This is actually a subject, I believe is very important today......God's word say's "Judge not, that ye be not judged"....But it also say's "To judge righteous judgement!" I believe, for too long, Christians have forgotten that our God, is not only a God of love, but also a God, whom hate's sin! There is such a thing as "Holy anger" just as there is "Holy hatred" We, as God's people, are to be angry at the thing's God is angry at, & in the same sinse, hate the thing's that God hates! Just as Jesus went into the temple, & over-turned the table's of the money changers, exclaimimg "My Father's house, is a house of prayer...." When we see unrighteous behaviour, esp. in God's house, we should feel the same. But, in doing so, we need to be careful, that it is the sin, & not the sinner, we are angry at! My thoughts, on this!.........love, jaunita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcollin Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Q2. Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? What is the difference between capricious or uncontrolled anger and anger that brings about justice? Exposition Every type of sin seems to be responded to by the Lord in anger. Type in "Lord" "Anger" in the Bible search engine and it will turn up 134+ responses which are all Old Testament references. The laws we are breaking are the Lord's laws, so he has a right to be angry with us for breaking His laws. It is just the same when we have household rules and our kids break the household rules any which way they can. We end up getting angry at our kids for disobeying us. Numbers 14:18 says 'The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.' Nahum 1:3 says "The LORD is slow to anger and great in power; the LORD will not leave the guilty unpunished." Jeremiah 23:20a "The anger of the LORD will not turn back until he fully accomplishes the purposes of his heart." May I put forth that the Lord has already accomplished the purposes of His heart in the sending/death/resurrection/assention of His Son Jesus. The age of God's anger burning directly against us has past, and now we are in the age of Grace. Grace is not getting what we rightfully deserve. For our sins we deserve death, but by Grace and Faith in Jesus Christ as the payment for that sin we become sons of God and inherit a place in heaven. Capricious means governed by or characterized by impulsive or unpredictable behavior. God's anger was always on target and always exacting on justice. God's anger is always under control by Him and not out of control to bring about His justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Mixer Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Anger is an appropriate response to sin because sin is a betrayal of trust that God places in man. Moreover, God directs his anger at the sin rather than the sinner for whom Jesus died. Emotional, uncontrolled anger is destructive and self-centered. Godly anger seeks to right a wrong and bring about reconciliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gail m Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? What is the difference between capricious or uncontrolled anger and anger that brings about justice? I think personally we should get angry at sin in our society, perhaps if more people were angry about it there would be a higher moral bar to reach. Uncontrolled anger gets us into trouble but a real heartfelt anger and desire for justice is another thing..Focus..It's hard to focus when you are angry but God was slow to anger and his anger is out of Love and Jesus would get angry out of Love for us as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia A. Conti Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Sin is a conscious choice a person makes to do wrong or not to do right. When we sin we choose to turn away from God in a very conscious manner. Anger is an appropriate response to someone from God when that person sins. God gave us everything. He even let His Son come to give us a way to come to him. He gave us rules for our own well-being. A conscious choice to not follow God can only be followed by anger. Although God is quick to forgive and when you ask God to forgive you (and you mean it) God will forgive. He is a loving God with righteous anger. Uncontrolled anger is when you react to a situation on the spot. Whatever happens happens. Controlled anger is when you choose to react in a specific manner for the purpose of correcting the situation. God's love for us is expressed at times through his righteous anger as he strives to teach us the way to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dickinson Posted March 10, 2003 Report Share Posted March 10, 2003 Q2. Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? As a Fundamentalist Christian I believe we are called to imitate our Savior Jesus. There are numerous examples in the Old Testament of God exercising His awesome power and His anger against His people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omie Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? What is the difference between capricious or uncontrolled anger and anger that brings about justice + God's anger with sin is justified as He is perfect and can not accept sin in us. He sacrificed the Best so that we can be cleansed of sin and one day be with Him, the Triune God. + Justified anger is one where the anger serves a purpose for the better good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Anger is a common response to sin because sin usually violates rules and regulations that have been clearly set by higher authorities. In our case, the commandments that have been laid out by the Lord have been violated by His people. This displeases the Lord especially if a particular sin is repeated over and over by different generations (an example would be the tendency of the Israelites to worship idols and other gods). The same thing would apply to us humans in case a person ciolates a certain rule or regulation that we have set in our society. But even if that's the case, we should not give in to the sudden emotional outbursts that sometimes accompany our anger. We might be tempted to put matters into our own hands expecially if we feel that the justice system in our community is weak. Furthermore, Satan might capitalize on our emotional outburst and use it to his advantage. What we should do, rather, is to use our anger as motivation to pursue justice. In the same way, the Lord never acted towards His people in anger even though we have displeased Him countless times already. Imagine if He gave in to a sudden emotional outburst because His people displeased Him one time too many...the entire human race would have probably been wiped out a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Ann Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Q2. Why is anger an appropriate response to sin? What is the difference between capricious or uncontrolled anger and anger that brings about justice? Anger signals that an action taken was not acceptable. If we do not become angry, we signal that an action was acceptable. Many of us today do not become angry when we should. Or we act on our anger such that it causes further destruction. We tend to think of destructive anger as being loud and physically hurtful. But sometimes it comes out in very quiet, personal, and perhaps even subconscience ways. It does no good to become angry in that manner. But GODS anger is soley for the purpose of justice. As Christians, we know what sin is, and that it causes anger and desctruction. But how can we know that we are acting on anger appropriately? What does it mean to act on anger in such a way that it brings about justice? I'm not sure I can answer this question. Perhaps someone can give me some insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luray mcclung Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. I have read all the posts about anger. Bob from Church of Christ ,CT already responded the way I would have answered although all of the responses are thought-provoking and seem God given or Holy Spirit directed. lmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peggy Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 In sin, even according to the Bible, there is momentary pleasure, and the moment is not thought of in eternity thinking. We should be angry about the hold that momentary pleasure has on us, not truly believing that this "moment" has the possibility of separating us from God. We are all born sinners, so Christ is essential to spend eternity with God. However, we continue to sin and need daily cleansing. I believe it's the moment by moment that affects our walk with God. We need to be careful not to categorize sin into "what's more sinful" - sin is sin is sin - if the Bible states it as being in oposition to God it is sin, and we should be very angry at the "moments" we allow to creep into our lives. Uncontrolled anger is always self-centered and usually accomplishes harm, not good for anyone. Controlled anger is usually righteous, lining itself up with God thinking, and therefore God lead, and if that's the case, God's will will be accomplished. Example, Jesus in the temple!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadylady Posted March 11, 2003 Report Share Posted March 11, 2003 Anger as response to sin is necessary as we need to be shaken by our own anger and in awe of God's anger, in order to respond. This needs to be a controlled angry response so that we don't sit back and say well I'm angry, but actually get up off our backsides and do something about it. Angry people help to feed the hungry, fight injustice, take on the big guys against those who can't fight for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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