Q3. Lord of Lords and Governments

ecglotfelty · June 17, 2008

Forgive me if sound like a liberal, but here goes...

We recognize that God is King alone and that we owe our allegiance to Him alone. Regardless of whether or not governments acknowledge Him, He is still sovereign. The New Testament church florished despite the fact that not only did the Roman gov't not recognoze Yahweh, but they required their citizens to worship Caesar. Because Christians refused to do this, they were severely persecuted. Paul was persecuted far more than most Christinas were, and eventually was beheaded for his faith. But it was he who wrote in Romans 13:1, "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

If the people of the United States don't recognize God as King, then the words "One Nation Under God" are just useless words taking up space on paper. Jesus said in Matthew 7:21, "Not everyone who says to me , 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of God, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Look at the church in China. Their gov't is atheist. They arrest and kill Christians. Yet there are so many people coming to Christ in that country, they're experiencing Pentecost on a daily basis. Maybe we should learn a thing or two about faith from these people.

Don't get me wrong. If they decide to eliminate God from money and pledges, it will be a dark day in America. I love my country. But my allegiance is to Yahweh the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit, AND TO HIM ALONE.

servant for Christ · September 13, 2008

God will bless the government's that bless Him and curse the government's that do not. God is still in control of the world. The implication's of removing God from our currency, our pledge's, our schools, are already having it's affect. This nation has turned away from it's maker. It is time to turn back to our Soverign God, let Him have control back and quit trying to do things ourselves. This nation has made a mess of itself. Go back to our first love, the Lord Jesus Christ and let Him put this nation back together again. If we as a nation, do not turn back to God Almighty, we are in very serious trouble. We have to recognize that God Almighty is our creator, the one and only God, in Him lays our answers to every problem we have, great or small.

JanMary · September 24, 2008

Q3. What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords?

Governments are under His rule..though few appear to notice or to submit to His authority. However, He is still Sovereign, and will use those governments to fulfill His purposes according to His plan, in spite of their ignorance or denial or stubborn refusal to acknowledge Him as Lord.

What are the implications of removing God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life?

That implies that the nation has severed all acknowledgement of God as Lord and Sovereign, and egomaniacs believe that they are in charge....kind of like the Emperors new clothes story.

Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

It puts them at odds with Him and out of His protection and blessing. We are experiencing the consequences of turning away from Him as a nation, and reaping the reward of Socialistic leaders at the top, raping institutions with greed and corruption, increasing crime, perplexity on all sides and a divided nation....God haters/liberals who despise Godly leaders who represent Him well. He brings judgment on nations that refuse His leadership.

God's people are still taken care of and provided for but life is more difficult when His national favor is removed.

Sandra K · September 28, 2008

What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords?

Sadly (and to the people's detriment) most all governments do not know that they are to serve as under the Lord God. If they did they would not allow oppression at all, would attempt morality in their nation, would serve as an example to their people of one who loves God and worships Him. Sad..sad...sad...

What are the implications of removing God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life?/b]

Is there any nation that does this? Israel......maybe. Secularizing a nation means excluding God in as many ways as possible...and that leaves the Christian to "do it on their own"....a Christian has to stand up against the tide and stand peacefully, if at all possible, and solidly for the Lord as King in their own life. Our nation has tumbled quickly down the slope of immorality in the last 50 years especially. Because of the secularizing of the nation by the rulers. I remember well being in grammar school and learning scripture as well a hymns....and that was in a public school. No more.

Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

That puts a nation at odds with God...because it is (the rulers are)

Windcatcher · February 26, 2009

What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords? What are the implications of removing "God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life? Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

It implys that we have a charge, a duty of service to God.

It implys that we have rejected Him.

In trouble.

Tina · March 3, 2009

Governments should submit to Yahweh as King because He is after all, King. The government should owe it's allegiance to the King and the King will guide them into decision making, law making, concerns about its citizens, etc because this is how Yahweh ruled in the days of Abraham, Moses, etc. When the government submits to Yahweh, the country and the land and the people will be healed.

When a nation removes God from everything that pertains to the nation, it means they are rejecting Him in favour of their own immoral lifestyles, their own dependence which implies egotism. What results then is anarchy, and people moving away from Yahweh's principles to their own waywardness and self destruction. It is almost as if they are building their own Tower of Babel, not to reach God, but to out-do Him, because to many, God is not important...He is old fashioned and not really necessary to them.

sunshine18 · April 29, 2009

Q3. What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords? What are the implications of removing God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life? Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

Governments and officials are placed by God and are therefore subject to His command. The mere fact that our world leaders today act as if no one will ever hold them accountable for their actions is preposterous! As the bible clearly points out, God curses those nations that turn their backs on Him. Sadly, God will destroy those nations in His own time. I think this makes the case even stronger for all of us to pray for the leaders of our respective countries to stand courageous against the desire to foster a secular and ungodly world just to please people.

Marloes · January 5, 2010

Government with Hashem as King should make laws that are christian.

We have God with us on our coins.

Even though everything is allowed here.

Gay marriage, abortus, many narcotics, ...

God is not our King at all.

humblesinner · May 11, 2010

Names of God: Lesson 6.

Q3. What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords? What are the implications of removing "God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life? Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

The implications for governments and authorities that YAHWEH is the King of kings and LORD of lords are manifold. It means that the LORD is above these earthly authorities. It is He who should be venerated even by these Authorities. There is no greater ruler than He. All in creation belongs to Him and it is His to do with as He wills.

The implications for the secularized state, void of YAHWEH are very serious indeed. No authority has ever succeeded in upholding a moral framework in their societies for any length of time. Over time, these societies become more and more corrupt. God cannot be replaced by politics and man running the world. It will surely fall apart without the LORD

Trusting God · June 18, 2010

A nation who has Yahweh as the King of kings and Lord of lords will submit their government and reign to His Will, and will seek Him first before making any decisions without God

hanks · July 14, 2010

Q3.

What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords?

What are the implications of removing "God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life?

Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

All governments are to bow down and acknowledge Yahweh as ruler overall. They do not do this at their own peril! God is in control of history and nations who reject God as Supreme Ruler have in the past all ceased to be. That is why our world is in the mess it is in at the moment. The more we turn our backs on God, the worse things will get!

July 27, 2010

Psalm 117: 1-2 Praise the LORD, all you nations. Praise Him, all you people of the earth. For He loves us with unfailing love, the LORD's faithfulness endures forever. Praise the LORD!

This is what the founding fathers of this nation did, we became a great nation. Because the founding fathers worshiped God and He blessed this nation richly. But then the riches of the nation became god to so many, and they turned their backs on God, wanting to keep Him in church only.

Wanting to remove all signs of God from public view, now our nation is in a world of trouble. If only we will turn back to God, He will heal our land. We need to pray for our leaders, we need to ask God to guide them. 1 Tim 2:1-2 I urge you, first of all, to pray for all the people. Ask God to help them: intercede on their behalf, and give thanks for them. Pray this way for kings and all who are in authority so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked by godliness and dignity. If we will make God, King of our nation, He will heal our land and we will once more live in peace. Without God in charge, we are doomed!

wilma m · December 26, 2010

If a government seeks after God, they will rule righteously and God's blessing will be upon them and their subjects. Unfortunately people love power and just as Saul did in the OT, most governments decide to do their own thing. They think they can rule in their own power and forget that all power is coming from God and that they will have to give an account before the Great Judge one day of the way they used their powers. When a government does not follow God and remove God out of their currencies and pledges, they will lead the people astray form God and God will remove His blessings and send curses. We see that in all the floods, earth quakes, and other calamities that the earth is facing- God often uses the forces of nature to remind people that they are weak and often that will bring them back on their knees. God is a fearful God, but also a God of mercy.

Karen Roddy · April 2, 2011

Although a person's relationship with God is purely personal it reveals itself through the society in which one lives. Once God is clearly understood as definition of a Universal existence the manefestations representing this knowledge become eternal and those which do not perish.

mc'el4life · April 18, 2011

To governments it imply that God Himself is their King but they are only ruling on God's behalf over His people, they are subject to God's reign, as there is no authority established except by Him; they should seek God and rule with the power and mind of God, rule with justice and righteousness It takes God for anyone in authority to rule successfully. Any nation that removes God from the nations currency and pledges and ardently secularizing national life obviously imply that God should remove His hands from the affairs of that nation and giving devil and his demons called gods express invitation to rule over them. Such country has no divine covering as such are prone to numerous attack. I wonder what will happen to such nation when evil day comes for it will come anyway. Disastrous eh h!!!. May we not use our hands to remove God from the affairs of our lives and may God continually reign in our lives. Amen

jacquie7 · October 5, 2011

The implications are if they govern in a manner that is not pleasing to the King of Kings, they will be held accountable and judged by Him. Removing God from any aspect of life is a major mistake that many of us don’t realize until after the fact. It puts more focus on worldly things; right becomes wrong and wrong becomes right, leading to a path of spiritual destruction Things began to happen that man has no control over or can’t fix without God (and, He’ll stand back and watch; until one comes to their senses and realize that they needed Him). Being out of touch with God the King puts a nation in the position that they think they are not accountable for their actions by allowing sin, judgment, bad relations, and embarrassment to surface and fester.

csreeves · October 11, 2011

I believe all should submit to God at all times including Gov't officials. I think we are seeing the result of gov't bodies non-obidence. We don't support Isreal as we are told to do.We will be judged.

Guitar Jim · December 7, 2013

Q3. What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords?

Rather than using Divine appointment as a license to do whatever they want and to treat it as Divine approval, governments should instead govern according to Biblical principles. Don't oppress the poor, look after the helpless, etc. The ideal government in my view would be Christian Socialist. That view puts me at odds with most Christians who lean far to the right in their political bent.

What are the implications of removing God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life?

Taking God out of a country's way of life is effectively denying a country the blessings God is willing and wanting to give. We've got governments legislating away God's blessings, all in the name of political correctness! So what if someone from another culture comes into our country and doesn't approve of how we do things? Why do the citizens of a country have to change their ways to suit people who come in of their own free will? Here in Australia we had an athiest Prime Minister before the election and now we have a sociopath purporting to be a Catholic in charge. There is an inner circle of extreme right wing, old money conservatives here who sincerely believe that the rich should rule the poor with an iron fist. They have placed their people in key political positions and the media is behind them all the way, whitewashing everything they do to make it pallatable to the public. And Christian church leaders, in their blind acceptance of everything politically conservative, have endorsed them! The very things the Bible teaches about fairness to workers and helping the poor and those who can't speak up for themselves because they have no advocate, are the things our government is pushing aggressively through parliament at an alarming rate.

Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

It puts a nation at odds with God, that's where! Quite a few countries are becoming Muslim because God, the Christian God, has been taken completely out of mainstream life. They won't need terrorists soon. The governments of many Western countries are just letting it happen.

Majjinniss4 · May 7, 2015

The implications for governments that Yahweh is King of Kings and Lord of Lords suggest that governments/ nations will be blessed when they acknowledge their Ruler. Should nations reject Yahweh as the supreme King, the nation will be judged harshly because they have rejected the commandments.

When a nation remove God from its currency and pledges and ardently secularising national life, it becomes a God-less society. There are no morals , and standards are compromise. It undermines God's supremacy and commandments. Many of society 's moral laws are based on the Decalogue

So to remove God , would be to embrace a corrupt society, a society like Sodom and Gomorrah.

A nation without God is a nation in distress facing spiritual and physical warfare.

JanMary · January 30, 2017

Q3. What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords?

Any government which acknowledges that Yahweh is King of Kings and Lord of Lords is blessed. Any which does not, will serve His purposes but will be known as goat nations, rather than sheep nations. Gen 15:14 God punished Egypt for enslaving and mistreating His people, the Israelites, so severely that they have never risen above mediocrity since. In Psalm 2, The ungodly nations imagined evil schemes, and the Lord "holds them in derision and supreme contempt, terrifies them and confounds them, and says to His Son, in V8," Ask of me and I will give you the nations as your inheritance and the uttermost parts of the earth as your possession." They will ultimately serve His purposes...as Psalm 119:91 states that the entire Universe serves God (even Satan, ends up serving God, in spite of himself and his hatred for God).Isaiah 40:15, 17: the nations ae like a drop from a bucket, as small dust on scale, the isles like very little things. All nations are as nothing before Him, regarded by Him as less than nothing and emptiness, waste, futility and worthlessness." Those nations are compared to Israel, His people, the only ones who belonged to Him at that time.

What are the implications of removing God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life?

If He has been visible on those items, then removed, that nation is disassociating itself from God, and following after godless leaders and their purposes. The United State has had His Name on those items and began with His principles as His nation and a place where Christianity and freedom were to reign. In the years since, His place in America has been diminished, and very recently since 2008, Christian persecution from the Government on down has been taking place. The inauguration on Jan 20, 2017 will change that, with the election of a newly born again Christian President, a mature Christian Vice President, numerous Christians in key cabinet positions, and a strong alliance with Israel will place the U.S. as a sheep nation, once again. America will begin to see her finest hour under this God-centered administration, with the taking back of so much lost ground to the devil. Pres. Trump desires and plans to move our embassy to Jerusalem, which has been on our books as law for 20 years, but he is the only who will honor that pledge. The U.S. will be protected and blessed for honoring and respecting Israel.

Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

Removing God from the nations identity and leadership, removes God's protection and blessing, and vulnerable to consequences from violating His principles and purposes, liable to His judgement. ("I will bless those who bless Israel and will curse those who curse Israel."

Rosesam · April 10, 2019

Q3. What are the implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords? What are the implications of removing God" from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life? Where does that put a nation with regard to God the King?

It is God who has made every nation of mankind from one man to live on all the face of the earth and He has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation (Acts 17:26). So our life on earth, whether believer or unbeliever should be by acknowledging that we are just stewards being entrusted with His creation and that we are accountable to Him. This is true for individuals as well as for governments. Bible says that blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord (Psalm 33:12). So it is imperative to acknowledge that God is the Lord of the nations. But nations who secularize national life are resisting the rule of God in their nations. It implies self-reliance and pride. When a nation rejects God as the King, they will be answerable to God on the judgement day and will suffer consequences.

av4Jesus · August 27, 2019

The implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords are that rulers on earth are accountable to God for whatever they do and that God promises protection and governments need to realize that they are responsible for whatever they do.

The implications of removing God from a nation's currency and pledges, and ardently secularizing national life are they are rejecting God and promoting other sinful behaviors in society, which is sinful and immoral.

Lottie · July 10, 2020

The implications for governments is that God expects them to obey his rules and statutes from the Bible. He has told us how He wants us to live and what is important to Him. His emphasis is on sanctity of life and one man and one woman marriage. He values children and the unborn and expects us to take care of the earth and all the animals and birds on it. Therefore, all governments should implement his rules in the laws they enact and enforce them. He wants them to ensure that people can always worship Him freely.

The implications for a country that removes God from its currency and pledges is that they soon become atheistic and cold towards God and what is right. They applaud what is wrong and sneer at ones who are godly and their consciences become hardened. America will become just like Russia or China. And just like Rome thousands of years ago it will collapse from the inside out.

A nation like that is far from God and doomed.

Mona Burton · August 27, 2020

The implications for governments that Yahweh is the King of kings and Lord of lords are that: 1. Every government should be cognizant of the fact that there is a God and that the world and everything in it belong to Him, and that He has total control. 2. Having been given such a great responsibility of governing a nation/people, they are to do so justly and in all fairness knowing that they are under surveillance by the Most High Himself and that they are accountable to Him for He is the King over all other kings and rulers in the world.

The implications of removing "God" from a nation's symbols and ardently secularizing national life are that that nation has in essence removed itself from under the divine providence of heaven and in so doing is without spiritual guidance.

With regard to God the King, the choice they made to "excommunicate" (exclude) Him from 'their life' puts that nation outside the scope of His suzerainty and leaves it exposed to both natural as well as spiritual assaults form enemies waiting for an opportunity.

MosesSole · September 19, 2020

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