Pastor Ralph Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Q1. In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? Exposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darleen Nelson Posted March 22, 2003 Report Share Posted March 22, 2003 In the New Testament world the humans who were freed by payment of the redemption price of ransom were slaves or prisoners of war. The use of the analogy made it easier to the people of these times and also of today, to see the relationship between the way these people were given freedom and the freedome from sin avialable for those who accept it. Those who were redeemed could have remained in slavery or as prisoners if they had not accepted their freedom. Likewise a sinner must accept the freedom Christ has provided or he will remain in his sin and cut off from God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omie Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 + Slaves were owned, with no rights, and considered as property. A husband could be sold to one owner, his wife and children to another. Children that were born to slaves were slaves also. It was a perpetual inheritance. There was no escape. + The Jews understood slavery, Romans were aware of the horrors of it also. The analogy was that slaves could not escape, neither can we escape. Paul in Romans 7:21-25, writes how sin is a habit in him, one that can't be broken, nor is there any escape. He cries out, in his misery - then thanks God for Jesus, his and our Redeemer. + I (and you) are like Paul, neither can we escape sin's hold on us. We too are slaves to sin. Only Christ the perfect lamb's death can save us from ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Baker Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 It seems the slaves of sin were the ones that were freed and since all of us were born sinners, that includes all. Jesus, Peter and Paul understood what a great price or gift had been paid to set us free and to become servant of God. About the Christian life and explaining it, maybe as we look at the world situation, perhaps we haven't got it yet. "At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved (douleuo) by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another." (Titus 3:3) About the question of who the ransom was paid to? Wasn't it perhaps paid by th Father to His Body the Church? In His Love, Bernard Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaunita Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? The New Testament speaks freely about something, we, living in a free country, have not witnessed, for a long time...This being slavery. People could be sold into slavery, or even born into slavery because of family debt. These would stay in slavery, either all their lives or until the debt was paid in full. The book of Hosea in the old testament, has always been a favorite for me, God tell's Hosea to take a wife, from among "The children of whoredoms", her name being Gomer. She, Gomer, proved to be an adulterous wife, which caused grief for Hosea because of his great love for her. Gomer ends up a slave, on the auction block in heart-felt misery. God sends Hosea to purchace her back. God used this example, of slavery, in speaking of Israel's back slidding & their playing the harlot. Just as God had Hosea purchace his wife, back from slavery, Jesus, because of His great love for us, has "Purchased us!", by His shed blood upon the Cross! We, who were once, slaves to sin, now can say we are free! We who once lived in darkness, are now called the children of light!...Praise His Wonderful Name!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobug Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 We are all born sinners. That malkes us slaves to sin. Jesus paid a price for our sins a gift to us No longer slaves to sin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kris Ann Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Q1. In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? Slaves were very common in Jesus time. There were many ways in which one could be forced into slavery. The only way out was for someone to make purchase of a slave for the purpose of setting them free. I expect that this redemption price or ranson was most often provided by family members. Since slavery was so prevalent in the days of the New Testament, Jesus, Peter, and Paul used the analogy of setting slaves free to explain how/why we need to be set free from sin by God. It was something they could relate to and understand. [*]Just as they became slaves, serving the needs of others, through societal expectations that they could not overcome- We all become slaves, serving the needs of society which often expects us to sin in order to remain socially acceptable. [*]Just as so many of them became slaves, seemingly through no fault of their own- It is all too easy to sin, often with excuses of good intentions and protective nature. [*]But just as a family member would be willing to pay ransom for someone who was sold into slavery simply for being in dept or being a victim of war- GOD is willing to pay the ransom for our sins. Not only that, but He is willing to pay the ransom for sins of everyone. For in God's eyes, all sin is the same. All sin causes us to be separate from Him. Whether it be that we owe an unpaid dept to our neighbor, or that we committed murder without reason. The Christain life is something that requires constant focus and prayer. It is too easy to wander from the path of God. But when we do, God is there to help us get back; to relieve us of the pain that we have brought upon ourselves, to bring us the love and joy and peace that He wants us to have. Father God, just as you freed the slaves, please bring peace among the nations of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Lindwall Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Hello Everyone In the New Testament world, what classes of human were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? During the lifetime of Jesus, most of the world He knew and traveled was ruled by the Romans. I am not a historian by ANY means, but I believe all of these lands came to be under Roman rule because of its aggressive acquisitiveness. The people in these conquered lands than became the slave property of the Romans. Although these conquered peoples could fight to win back their sovereignty as nations, the classes of people freed by payment of a ransom or redemption price, were more likely the common poor who had fallen on hard times. For example a man whose crop had failed and who couldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 Jesus, Peter and Paul used the analogy of slavery to illustrate our bondage to sin and the gravity of the price that Jesus had to pay to set us free from that bondage. The concept of slavery is a perfect analogy because we too, like the slaves that lived during their time, were born to slavery. We did not choose to be bonded to sin and the price that we had to pay for being sinners. When we were born, we were not given the choice whether or not we should live as a person bonded to sin. The slaves during their time too were mostly born as slaves because their family have been slaves for quite some time. We were only freed from that bondage primarily when Jesus Christ gave up His life for us on the cross and finally when we accepted Him as our Lord and Savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Stanley Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Q1. In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? Exposition Slaves were the class of humans that were freed.Of the many diffrent ways becoming a slave warfare seems to be the most comon.This was slavery in the ancient world. The theme verses used in this analogy was to let you know how precious the blood of Christ is,a lamb without blemish or defect.Silver and Gold will perish.The blood of Jesus Christ is giving you life forever,as christians we become free,free from the slavery of sin through Jesus Christ our saviour.We are know longer in bondage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelda huffman Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Slaves were redeemed by payment of a ransom price. Jesus paid the debt to free us from our sins and what a Ransom price He paid to die upon that old rugged cross for all of our sins, so that we can be free of them. He made the sacrifice of his life so that ours can be released from the blemishes of sin and made whiter than snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Spaulding Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 There were many in slavery in the time of Jesus. They could be redeemed, or bought, if the price could be raised that the master asked for them. However, Jews refused to see themselves as slaves except those who were bound in slavery until the year of Jubilee, when they had to be set free. In connection to slavery to sin, they could only be set free by the blood of a perfect lamb sacrifice. But an animal's blood could only cover the sin. Jesus, God's perfect lamb sacrifice for us, shed His blood for us to redeem us from our sin! Only He is perfect! Only He could do this--and He did it willingly! I can't begin to thank Him enough for His loving care that sets me free--for service He directs as well as eternal life with Him! I couldn't pay the price for my freedom from slavery to sin! Only He could free me! Thank you, Lord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Wardrop Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Lesson 3: Ques. 1 & 2: All humans who will enter into fellowship with Jesus are freed or better, are "emanicapted." It is the life of Jesus, His life of holiness and service, which emancipates our souls. As a Christian, we should be aware of the price paid and if we are aware, our service to life will reflect this fact. Ques: 3: All who don't believe as well as those who claim to believe but fail in their belief are the slaves. One can be enslaved by a multitude of things. It was Jesus' self-sacrifice which will save His followers-if they accept His offering. We really don't knowwhy the slave-ransom isn't spelled out for us in Scripture. However, there are many other concepts that are also not spelled out. God, when we are ready, will spell out for us just what He knows that we can handle. Ques 4: Actually we are not set free or released from slavery until we believe and accept Jesus as our Redeemer. When we do accept, then we are free but only as long as we continue to believe in Him. We need the Holy Spirit to help us keep this freedom because it is via tghe Holy Spirit that we are talking with God (Gen. 1:2). In Acts 5: 1-4, we find that the apostle Peter made it clear that Ananias did not lie to man, but to God. The person he lied to was the Holy Spirit; conclusion is obvious: the Holy Spirit is God! Shalom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dickinson Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 #3 Q1. In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Slaves were the class of humans freed. This analogy was used to help us understand that this bondage is just as much a part of life today as was in the past. It helps explain that the power of Christ is the only hope for those in spiritual bondage. Satan enslaves men to his will. Only Christ can end that enslavement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayfarer58 Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Greetings All! a. Slaves or prisoners of war were those freed by ransoming. b. I think that Jesus and the New Testament writers used this analogy because it was one that everyone could see and understand. Slavery was a way of life in NT times. And it wasn't the type of slavery which was a part of early American life. This type of slavery, especially among the Jews, had certain rules. Redemption was one of those rules. c. I think it helps explain why we do what we do, especially before we've been redeemed. While it is tru that , once redeemed, we are no longer 'bound' to sin to do sin, old habits die hard and the idea of having been a slave to sin helps explain why it is so difficult for us to completely give up our old way of life. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadylady Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Those who had been taken as prisoners through war, trade, debt or their descendants, all these needed to have a price paid for them, needed their debt paid - they remained as slaves forever until they had been paid for. I think New Testament writers and teachers used slavery illustrations as they were relevant for the people of the time - it must have been their worst nightmare to get into debt, or captured as slaves because there was no way out, except full payment or their own death. These illustrations help us today to understand the work of the Holy Spirit in setting prisoners of sin, sickness. etc. totally free & see Jesus for the Redeemer he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gail m Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? 1. Slaves 2. Because we are all slaves to sin 3. It explains that Christians have been "Bought" and that God owns them. We are property of God..Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retired Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 The class of people question is somewhat confusing. Jesus set all people free. It is true that in Jesus' time that slavery was prevalent. When he died on the cross he not only set the slaves free but all of us. Those who were slaves, remained slaves to their masters, but they were free in Christ. Today we still have the bondage of sin. But if we truly believe in Him we are free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcollin Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Q1. In the New Testament world, what class of humans were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom? Why do you think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy in this week's theme verses. What about the Christian life does it help explain? Exposition Slaves were the class of humans that could be freed by payment of a redemption price. Jesus, Peter, and Paul used slave analogies because there were a lot of slaves at the time. The verses help explain a lot about the Christian life in that we as humans by our nature are many times knowingly or unknowingly slaves to one or more masters. As a Christian, we have been set free from that by the blood of the Lamb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Williams Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 In the New Testament sinners are the one freed by payment of a redemption price or ranson. Slavery is spoken of in the Old and New testament and in both cases a redeemer is needed. Jesus, Peter and Paul use this analogy in this week's theme verse to show us that freedom from slavery is not the only idea but sacrifice. Even in the world we live in today we can see tha t freedom is not cheap. A christian life is no longer his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 The class of humans that could be freed by payment of a redemption price or ransom were slaves and prisoners of war. Slavery was very common during the times of Jesus, Paul, and Peter. The analogy of setting slaves free was used to explain how we need to be set free from the slavery of sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luray mcclung Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Greetings to all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, In the New Testament world, both slaves and prisoners of war were freed by payment of a redemption price or a ransom. I think that Jesus, Peter, and Paul used this analogy because the people during that time could relate by experience and the world around them the idea of bondage and servitude. Today, in our Christian walk with Jesus, we are saved to beome servants of others. lmc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsor Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 In the New Testament the lowest class of people where Slaves. With no rights of citizenship and no say in there life. Treated lkie cattle if master so choose. A slave was reedemed with a payment of coin . Slaves where very common in new testament times and many christains were slaves. An Analogy is used when it can be undersood by a group or an individual and in this case it was plannly understood by all. In Christian life it is plain to see Christ reedemed us from slavery of sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Beth Whittam Posted April 1, 2003 Report Share Posted April 1, 2003 The slave of the New Testament were from international trade, warfare. Christ uses this anology to show us that we were bought out of a worthless, empty way of life. Not with money but with a life that volunteered to sacrifice His life for me. He loved me that much!! My redeemer won the battle where I never could have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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