Pastor Ralph Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabatha Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? Immersion is the usual form of baptism-- that is , a new Christian is completely " buried " in water. This form of baptism symbolizes the death and burial of the old way of life, Coming up out of the water symbolizes resurrection to a new life with Christ. If we think of our old, sinful life as dead and buried, we have a powerful motive to resist sin. W can consciously choose to treat the desires and temptations of the old nature as if they are dead. Baptism parallels the death,burial, and resurrection of Christ. Not wanting the desires of our past to come back. We have been given the power to live as New Born Christians. Through faith in Christ we stand acquitted, or not guilty. In Baptism when we go under the water and come up we die to the old man we become a new creature in Christ. We have become one with Christ and His Spirit has been emparted in us, through this we have power to over come the acts of the flesh. We are alive to God in Christ seated in heavenly realms in Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? In baptism we are buried under the water, Christ was buried in the earth, in baptism we are raised to a neew life in Christ. In death Christ was raised to new life at the right hand of the Father. It imparts Spiritual powers in that we are raised into a new life to follow Christ and be given all the Spiritual Blessings that God bestowed on Him when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamountain Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? I was just recently baptized. By being laid in the water fully you are like being laid in a grave you are dead your sins are dead with it. By being raised out of the water you are like Christ being raised from the dead, Reborn a new child in Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charisbarak Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Christ was buried & was resurrected in a new body. We are buried (under the water in baptism) and raised to being a "new man." Though it is spiritual, we can relate to what Jesus did for us in the spiritual changes in our lives--new ownership and His power through Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATJOE Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? When we are baptized, we are united with Christ in His death and at the end of our worldly life we will be united with Him again in His resurrection. We will be at Christ's right hand as He is with the Father, which puts us in a position to share in Christ's power spiritually and all His power can do for us. Here we are, so undeserving on our own, and yet so loved to be in this wondrous position with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Do we really understand what kind of love this is? It is beyond all human understanding. We are in His grace and praise Him for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 When we are baptized we are putting to death our old selves and when we come up out of the water we are claiming a new life in Christ, being "resurrected". In Ephesians 1:18-20, Paul prays that the eyes of our understanding be enlightened (vs 18a) in order that we can see His power toward us (vs 19) which raised Him from the dead(vs 20b). In other words, the resurrection power extended by the Father to raise the Son is now given to those of us who believe and this through the Holy Spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revmrf Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? The picture of being immersed in the baptismal water juxtaposed with being immersed in the grave moves to being raised up out of the water and raised [resurrected] from the grave. From life, to death, to new life in Christ. The old has become new. Christ in us gives us the new dimension of his spiritual power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plethra Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? When we are baptized we are immersed in water - buried with Christ - then when we are lifted up out of the water - we are resurrected just like Christ was resurrected. We become new creatures. Clean and fresh. The power that God used to raise Jesus from the dead is the same power that works in us to make us new creations. It is the Power of God working in us that changes us and cleanses us and creates in us the desire to be like HIM and the desire and ability to change a lifetime of sinning and riotous living into a life of service to and for God. What can wash away my sin? NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS! HALLELUJAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Rupert Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? In both Romans and Colossians Christ death and resurrection both acknowledge the death of Christ and our death in baptism, from our old selfs, through baptism we become dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. We are baptized in his death, buried with him, resurrected into our new self with him from the dead and united with him through faith. In Ephesians we share power and priviledge in the spiritual world through union with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? In both Romans and Colossians Christ death and resurrection both acknowledge the death of Christ and our death in baptism, from our old selfs, through baptism we become dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. We are baptized in his death, buried with him, resurrected into our new self with him from the dead and united with him through faith. In Ephesians we share power and priviledge in the spiritual world through union with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The baptism of water was alway a sign of entering into a new covenant. both jew,s and gentiles were convinced of John,s baptism for repentance a sign of death to the old life and the emerging into a new life. Jesus was without sin so when he was baptised it signified a deeper meaning behind the baptism.being an image of the past (the red sea) and a picture of things to come. John stating that he was ineed of Jesus baptism was significant in the picture of things to come. Sanctification by baptism is the setting apart for a life that was worldly and carnal for one that is eternal and spiritual. The new birth at the coming out from the water is symbolic of a resurrection to come , it is also a reality in the now as we continue into the abundant life as promised by Christ. But Christ had another baptism that of the spirit. flesh and spirit war against each other so it is essential that we as believers must be baptised into the death of the carnal and born again into the life of the spirit. God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. in Acts 1 Jesus proclaimed the baptism of the spirit as he told his disciples to wait in Jerusalem the promise of God after which you shall recieve power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revmrf Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 The baptism of water was alway a sign of entering into a new covenant. both jew,s and gentiles were convinced of John,s baptism for repentance a sign of death to the old life and the emerging into a new life. Jesus was without sin so when he was baptised it signified a deeper meaning behind the baptism.being an image of the past (the red sea) and a picture of things to come. John stating that he was ineed of Jesus baptism was significant in the picture of things to come. Sanctification by baptism is the setting apart for a life that was worldly and carnal for one that is eternal and spiritual. The new birth at the coming out from the water is symbolic of a ressurection to come , it is also a reality in the now as we continue into the abundant life as promised by Christ. But Christ had another baptism that of the spirit. flesh and spirit war against each other so it is essential that we as believers must be baptised into the death of the carnal and born again into the life of the spirit. God is a spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. in Acts 1 Jesus proclaimed the baptism of the spirirt as he told his disciples to wait in Jerusalem the promise of God after which you shall recieve power. Hi Sandy, Would you consider rephrasing "God is a spirit" in the above to read "God is Spirit"? I believe you might acknowledge that there is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 We were baptized into Christ and buried with him. We will be united with Him in resurrection through the glory of the Father. Through faith in the power of God we will be raised from the dead. It is by grace we have been saved because of Christ's great love for us. God's mercy is new every day. We were made alive with Christ while we were dead in sin and were seated with Him in the Heavenly realms in Christ Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Hi Sandy, Would you consider rephrasing "God is a spirit" in the above to read "God is Spirit"? I believe you might acknowledge that there is a difference. Absolutely, as you say so it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindy Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 In baptism, God affixes the sign and seal of innocence upon us AND imparts to us our ministerial calling. From this position of innocence we are born again as witnesses to His faithfulness using whatever talents He created us with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Romans 6:3-5) When we are baptised, we are partaking in Christ's death and resurrection. The water symbolizes the grave and our rising out of it symbolizes us uniting with Him in the resurrection. Col 2:12) We are buried with Christ in baptism and raised with Him thru faith in the power of God. Eph 2:4-6) At Christ's right hand, we share His power and priveleges in the heavenlies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haar Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 When we are immersed in water at baptism, it sympbolises our death with Christ. Our sins are burried with him. As we come out from the water, this symbolises our resurrection to a new life, in union with Christ. The union with him gives us power to live spiritually victoriously over sin with the power of the holy spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewell Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 We were....buried with him through baptism into death....just as Christ was raised from the dead.....we will certainly be united with him in his resurrection. And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms - where we share his power and privileges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann K Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Christ's death and resurrection~~ Christ died and rose again. By baptism, immersion portrays death``rising out of the water represents our being united with Him (In the future) in his resurrection. The love of God shows our being raised with Christ and that we can share his power and privileges in the spiritual world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sis. dee Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? When we are baptized, going down in the watery graved, we die to our old nature. When we rise up out of the water, we rise to a new life in Christ Jesus, we become new creatures. In Ephesians we share power and priviledge in the spiritual world through union with God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Paul uses the common experience of believers being baptized as a picture of being identified with Jesus Christ. Water baptism is a symbol of the spiritual union of Christ and the believer. When a person trusts Christ , he/she is incorporated into, united to, Jesus Christ, which includes being united to His death. Jesus' death becomes our death. Christian baptism makes these spiritual realities vivid. If the believer's identification with Christ means being identified with His death, then it logically follows that the believer also identifies with Jesus' resurrection. Having died and having been raised with Christ, the believer should live a new kind of life. Out of His mercy, God gave His Son for us while we were yet His enemies. He loved us long before we loved Him. In addition to making us spiritually alive, He determined that we would sit in heavenly places with out Savior, Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahala p.s. Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? Christ's death and resurrection provides an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12 in this way. We was immersed in the water means we was united with him in his death, and then we was brought out of the water means we shall be united with him (in the future) in his resurrection. According to Ephesians 2:4-6 this union of being Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masika Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Baptism parallels the dead, burial and resurrection of Christ in that it portrays the dead and burial of our old way of life followed by resurrection to new life in Christ. Remembering that our old sinful life is dead and buried with Christ gives us apowerful motive to resist sin . Not wanting the desire of our past to come back again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCHRIS Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 As Christ was buried so are we when we are immersed and as Christ arose so do we when we arise out of the water, in newness of life in Christ. With His empowerment living within us, for us to be striving for holiness. As born again Christians we are set apart from the world, a holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of Him who has called out of darkness into his marvellous light. 1Peter 2:9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioned Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 Q3. How does Christ's death and resurrection provide an analogy for baptism according to Romans 6:3-5 and Colossians 2:12? The analogy Paul gave sees the baptism as a type of Jesus' own death and resurrection, and a vivid reminder of our union with him in both his death and resurrection. According to Ephesians 2:4-6, while being "raised with Christ" is still spiritual, not physical, in what way does this union impart real spiritual power? At Christ's right hand we share his power and privileges in the spiritual world. Our being co-raised with Christ typifies the grace of God to us. Just before He ascended, Jesus told his followers: "...All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matt 28:18b With this power Jesus commissioned his followers to go throughout the world and proclaim His gospel. Then He followed the statement by saying: "... lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world." Matt 28:20b This is spiritual power, and its ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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