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Q4. (Hebrews 5:8) In what sense did Jesus "learn obedience from what he suffered"? How did Jesus' learning process differ from ours, since he didn't sin and suffer the consequences of his sin -- the way we usually learn?

He learned perfect obedience by choosing to be humble to the point of the death on the cross at Calvary. Also when He was tempted by the enemy He never once gave into temptation instead He chose to humble Himself and use the word of God to defend Himself.  

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On 4/14/2007 at 5:23 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q4. (Hebrews 5:8) In what sense did Jesus "learn obedience from what he suffered"? How did Jesus' learning process differ from ours, since he didn't sin and suffer the consequences of his sin -- the way we usually learn?

He learned obedience to God is costly.  Even though we are doing right.  Our rewards will greatly outweigh our suffering, but we may not see the fullness of that till heaven.

Jesus didn't suffer because He sinned

 Rather He would have suffered even more difficult temptation because He never gave in. He proved obedience is possible thru the power of the Holy Spirit.

 

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(Hebrews 5:8) In what sense did Jesus "learn obedience from what he suffered"? How did Jesus' learning process differ from ours, since he didn't sin and suffer the consequences of his sin -- the way we usually learn?

Jesus love and trusted His Father and remained in Him while on earth. He knew He was there to Glorify the Father (John 17:1-2), and how to Glorify Him and Himself. His trust to submit to death allowed His Spirit to enter Seol and bring out those who were waiting for Him. Only God could have such trust in 'himself'  

Did He really learn obedience from His suffering? His obedience was put to the test and He knew why He was sent to earth. He had a choice, but chose to obey and experience 'death' of His earthly body. So He confidently took on the sin of all and said, "it is finished" as He gave up His Holy Spirit to God the Father. We see His reward, He is the Most High, to be worshiped and adored by our souls forever!

 

 

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(Hebrews 5:8) In what sense did Jesus "learn obedience from what he suffered"? How did Jesus' learning process differ from ours, since he didn't sin and suffer the consequences of his sin -- the way we usually learn?

Jesus love and trusted His Father and remained in Him while on earth. He knew He was there to Glorify the Father (John 17:1-2), and how to Glorify Him and Himself. His trust to submit to death allowed His Spirit to enter Seol and bring out those who were waiting for Him. Only God could have such trust in 'himself'  

Did He really learn obedience from His suffering? His obedience was put to the test and He knew why He was sent to earth. He had a choice, but chose to obey and experience 'death' of His earthly body, Phil 2:8. So He humbly and confidently took on the sin of all and said, "it is finished" as He gave up His Holy Spirit to God the Father. We see His reward, He is the Most High, to be worshiped and adored by our souls forever!

 

 

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Q4. (Hebrews 5:8) In what sense did Jesus "learn obedience from what he suffered"?
Jesus learned through his suffering to depend on God, I believe it gave him greater understanding of who God is. As well as understanding of the magnitude of what him lying is life down on the cross would mean for all mankind. It also gave him a greater understanding of what man’s life is like and gave him compassion towards our suffering. 

How did Jesus' learning process differ from ours, since he didn't sin and suffer the consequences of his sin -- the way we usually learn?

Jesus had to go through stuff that he didn’t bring on himself. We often get ourselves into trouble and have to suffer the consequences of our actions. 

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