Pastor Ralph Posted December 20, 2007 Report Share Posted December 20, 2007 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eudora Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and ****? Adultery is breaking the vow of marriage by having voluntary sexual intercourse with someone other than his or her lawful spouse. **** is an uncontrolled appetite, a craving for a pleasure of this unsatisfied desire. They both are submission to self desire. They both are self desires for power control. Jesus said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabatha Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? The Old Testament law said it is wrong for a person to have sex with some one other than his or her spouse. But Jesus said that the desire to have sex with someone other than your spose is mental adultery ( fornication ) and thus sin. Jesus emphasized that if the act is wrong, then so is the intention . To be faithful to your spouse with your body but not your mind is to break the trust so vital to a strong marriage. Jesus is not condeming natural interest in the opposite sex or even healthy sexual desire, but the deliberate and repeated filling of one's mind with fantasies that would be evil if acted out. ( Romans 12 : 2 ) Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-- His good , pleasing and perfect will. ) Some think that if lustful thoughts are sin, why shouldn't a person go ahead and do the lustful actions too? Acting out sinful desires is harmful in several ways: ( 1 ) it causes people to excuse sin rather than to stop sinning: ( 2 ) it destroys marrages : ( 3 ) it is deliberate rebellion against Gos's Word. (4 ) it always hurts someone else in addition to the sinner. Sinful action is more dangerous than sinful desire . and that is why desires should not be acted out. Nevertheless, sinful desires is just as damaging to righteousness. Left unchecked , wrong desires will result in wrong actions and turn people away from God. ( Exodus 20: 17 ) You shal not covet/ your neighbor's house.You shall not covet your neighbor's wife. or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. ( Exodus 20 : 14 ) You shall not commit adultry. ( Math. 5 : 27 ) You have heard that it was said, Do not commit adultry. ( 28 ) but I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultry with her in his heart. Sex outside of the marriage with a partner is lustful and considered fornication and a sinful act in the eyes of God. **** breaking the tenth commandment is desiring something that belongs to someone else. Remember David's lustful heart caused him to murder to get what he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabatha Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 The Old Testament law said it is wrong for a person to have sex with some one other than his or her spouse. But Jesus said that the desire to have sex with someone other than your spose is mental adultery ( fornication ) and thus sin. Jesus emphasized that if the act is wrong, then so is the intention . To be faithful to your spouse with your body but not your mind is to break the trust so vital to a strong marriage. Jesus is not condeming natural interest in the opposite sex or even healthy sexual desire, but the deliberate and repeated filling of one's mind with fantasies that would be evil if acted out. ( Romans 12 : 2 ) Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-- His good , pleasing and perfect will. ) Some think that if lustful thoughts are sin, why shouldn't a person go ahead and do the lustful actions too? Acting out sinful desires is harmful in several ways: ( 1 ) it causes people to excuse sin rather than to stop sinning: ( 2 ) it destroys marrages : ( 3 ) it is deliberate rebellion against God's Word. (4 ) it always hurts someone else in addition to the sinner. Sinful action is more dangerous than sinful desire . and that is why desires should not be acted out. Nevertheless, sinful desires is just as damaging to righteousness. Left unchecked , wrong desires will result in wrong actions and turn people away from God. ( Exodus 20: 17 ) You shall not covet/ your neighbor's house.You shall not covet your neighbor's wife. or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. ( Exodus 20 : 14 ) You shall not commit adultry. ( Math. 5 : 27 ) You have heard that it was said, Do not commit adultry. ( 28 ) but I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultry with her in his heart. Sex outside of the marriage with a partner is lustful and considered fornication and a sinful act in the eyes of God. **** breaking the tenth commandment is desiring something that belongs to someone else. Remember David's lustful heart caused him to murder to get what he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loisb Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? 1. Adultery and **** are basicly the same as far as sin is concerned. 2. The Bible has made it very clear how wrong it is to commit either of these. If your heart is pure, you wouldn't commit either of these sins. Being married should keep you from ******* after anyone. Keeping your mind on God should keep you from *******. 3. You should not be looking at anyone or anything with desire. You shouldn't be wishing for things lustfully that don't belong to you. Even if you don't do or say anything, you are sinning within your heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary NoVA Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 In short: Adultery is giving away what was promised to another. **** is apprehending what belongs to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia A Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 What is the point of similarity between adultery and ****? The many lusts of the flesh, the passions and desires of the heart, often cloud the force of reason and leave us destitute of rational behavior and bereft of godliness and faithfulness. What many students of the Word fail to perceive is that not all "****" (in the negative sense of that term) is sexual in nature. [/size] What is the difference? The of the **** flesh and the **** of the eyes" (1 John 2:16) may frequently involve asexual passions and desires. How does **** break the Tenth Commandment? We must acknowledge that one can indeed look desirously upon a woman and "commit adultery in his heart" and have that "longing" and "adultery" be entirely NON-sexual in nature. Thus, those who declare that adultery is always and only an illicit sexual act are proclaiming more than Jesus did. Indeed, they proclaim a falsehood. The Contemporary English Version has done an excellent job of capturing the meaning of Jesus' words in the Matthew 5:27-28 passage --- "You know the commandment which says, 'Be faithful in marriage.' But I tell you that if you look at another woman and want her, you are already unfaithful in your thoughts." There are many ways to "want" a woman other than sexually, and there are many ways to be "unfaithful in marriage" besides committing some illicit sexual act with one other than one's spouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonnie Nelson Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Q1. What is the point of similarity between adultery and ****? What is the difference? How does **** break the 10th Commandment? The point of similarity between adultery and **** is that we, in our human state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? The point of similarity is that the one leads to the other when allowed to grow and permagate in the heart. The diffearance is that when **** is placed in the heart by satin we have the opprotunity of giving it up to God and allowing Him to cleanse our hearts and save us from unrighteousness. ******* breaks the Tenth Commandment when we allow it to grow in our hearts and it leads to sin and then death. We are told by Christ to **** is sin and we must seek His strength through prayer and our Christian family to over come it. Anyone can be drawn into lustful sin including our own leaders and pastors if they aren't prayed for and help to overcome the devils stumbling block. We are to seek Christ and His righteousness and in doing that we can learn to over comethe devil's traps of ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? The point of similarity between adultry and **** is, according to Jesus, this is a form of adultry even if it is only in your heart. There is no difference, **** of the flesh is **** of the flesh. The way it breaks the 10 Commamdments is, this is a sin against God, as well as against the marriage partner. It also is breaking God's commandments inwardly is equivalent to breaking this commandment outwardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood C O'Dell Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Boiled down to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and ****? Sin What is the difference? Adultery is breaking the 10th commanment by physically acting out ****. -- ****, is the desire to commit the act of adultery, even if you cannot do it physically. How does **** break the Tenth Commandment? Don't think we are safe because we have not done the external act, **** uncontrolled, leads to a path far worse, God see's our hearts and our motivations, are they pure or not. Think on those good things and not open doors to Satan, for he is out to destroy the believer. I do not believe God is talking about a person finding pleasure in looking at a good looking man, or a beautiful woman, it is that deliberate act to go after, to "**** after" the other person, for sexual pleasure. The world today see's no problem with adultery, and certainly not with attending "strip joints" -- but God has a law, it is for our good He warns us as we see in -- 2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 2Pe 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masika Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and ****? What is the difference? How does **** break the Tenth Commandment? The point of similarity between adultery and **** is that both are sin against God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATJOE Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? **** will lead to adultery. **** is in the mind and adultery is the act. Jesus said to **** after a person in your mind, one has already committed adultery in his heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulu 1931 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 The similarity us that both come from the heart and you are breaking you vows to each other. The difference is on was actually done while the other was just thought about..both can lead to heartbreak for your spouse. I think that **** also breaks the commandment because it comes from your heart and thus deception and unclean. One must keep true to yourself and your spouse if you want to have a happy marriage and show your love for each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJU Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? Lus+ is the mental act . Adultery is the physical act of sex outside of marriage which breaks the tenth commandment Thou shall not covet thy neighbous wife . The thoughts of our heart need to be holy and pure , it is a dailly battle with the world, flesh and the devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 The similartity between adultery and **** is that they are both desires, one committed, the other a hunger. To God, our heart is who we are and whether we want to obtain a lustful desire or we actually do the intent, the result is the same, sin. It is why we have to take every thought and put it under subjection of the Holy Spirit and if evil, cast it down before it does us. The 10th Commandment is about covetnessess. **** is the same. It is about the wantoness of the flesh. Apparently the Lord does not want us to write down the 2nd word of the subject: Adultery, ****, and Coveting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s8nfighter Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? Matt. 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. (NIV) Adultery is merely the end result of continued ****. The desire of the heart is what is most often fullfilled by our actions, and if left unfullfilled the emptiness which remains is filled with bitterness, jealousy, eny, and hate. Service had just began and as usual the pastor asked if there were any prayer requests. One of the Sunday School teachers requested prayer for a family who had little food left to make it through to the end of the month. As the congregation began to pray all I could think about was how hungry those five children must be. So I tapped my wife on the shoulder and pointed to the door. We left, went home, and made a quick shopping list. And as we were driving to the store I noticed the new pick-up trucks with boats hitched to the back of them waiting for church to be out so they could be driven to the river. So I told my wife to stop. I said look around. This is what we give up when we do things like this. Are you sure you still want to do this? With no thought at all she said, "Yes." We loaded the back of our van full of groceries and delivered them to the family. I will never forget the expression of that little five year old girl when she said, "Wow, Is all this for us?" We all desire somthing and it is our actions which point to that desire. James 3:13-18 13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15 Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. 16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. 17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. (NIV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjj Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 What have adultery and **** have to do with God? God put us together to create union with a partner and Himself. Adultery and **** exclude God totally. The choice is back to Loving God and Your Neighbour in the spirit and then translating it into action. The tenth commandment is violated in this. God is insulted. God meets your needs and if you look at your neighbour and desires his you are saying to God - that He does not care for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabatha Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Matt. 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. (NIV) Adultery is merely the end result of continued ****. The desire of the heart is what is most often fullfilled by our actions, and if left unfullfilled the emptiness which remains is filled with bitterness, jealousy, eny, and hate. Service had just began and as usual the pastor asked if there were any prayer requests. One of the Sunday School teachers requested prayer for a family who had little food left to make it through to the end of the month. As the congregation began to pray all I could think about was how hungry those five children must be. So I tapped my wife on the shoulder and pointed to the door. We left, went home, and made a quick shopping list. And as we were driving to the store I noticed the new pick-up trucks with boats hitched to the back of them waiting for church to be out so they could be driven to the river. So I told my wife to stop. I said look around. This is what we give up when we do things like this. Are you sure you still want to do this? With no thought at all she said, "Yes." We loaded the back of our van full of groceries and delivered them to the family. I will never forget the expression of that little five year old girl when she said, "Wow, Is all this for us?" We all desire somthing and it is our actions which point to that desire. James 3:13-18 13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14 But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15 Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. 16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. 17 But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18 Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness. (NIV) Your message really touched my heart thank you s8nfighter ( Tabatha ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? 1) The similarity is that Adultery begins in the mind, ******* after that which does not belong to me. Jesus said "If you've lusted in your heart after another, you've commited adultery." The difference is, if it stops with **** and isn't carried to the physical level, you've sinned against your own flesh and against God, and your spouse, but have not harmed another by joining yourself to them physically creating a soul tie. 2)We are told in the commandment not to covet ANYTHING that belongs to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahala p.s. Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Q1. (Matthew 5:27-30; Exodus 20:17) What is the point of similarity between adultery and lus+? What is the difference? How does lus+ break the Tenth Commandment? The point of similarity between adultery and **** is that the both are inordinate or selfish desire coming from the heart, for carnal pleasure The difference is that in adultery the desire has been applied physically in the sexual intercourse, whereas in **** it is not. **** breaks the Tenth Commandment in a way that it breaks the command of not to coveting anything that belongs to another as stated in the commandment "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor" (Exodus 20:17). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charisbarak Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 The point adultery & **** are the same is the same selfish desire for something that does not belong to you. The difference--**** is the beginning of the fulfillment of adultery. Jesus said you've committed adultery if you **** after someone. Your mindset is one of acceptance of adultery--you've gone too far by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisterlily Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 greetings, the similarity between **** and adultery is that you are involved in something that is not yours to look at or be a part of. The difference is that Jesus said there is no difference. It is coveting what is not yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Grace Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Adultry and **** are both results of self gratification. They don't consider the other person as anything of worth but only something to gratify the desires of either thought pleasures or physical pleasures. There must not be any difference because Jesus says that if we even look at anyone with ****, we commit adultry with that person. I think He was warning to put ALL of it away from ourselves because thoughts can lead to action, so we need to be careful to pull the window shades of our minds on evil trying to enter in and stop even any small conception of thoughts like that. It's bringing our minds and bodies into submission and calling on The Holy Spirit for strength! We can form GOOD habits as well as bad ones and this is a really good one to develop! **** breaks the ten commandments in many ways. If we are going around having day dreams about others in that way, certainly God is not first in our thoughts. We make idols of people thinking they are better than what God gave us (which isn't true), if someone is that far on a pedastool then a person could be worshiping another. **** can lead to adultry and is considered as adultry. Lustful thoughts could lead to "stealing" something that is not ours and looking lustfully at someone is coveting someone not ours. I'd like to add something though for the benefit of some. If you have been a victim of abuse, you may have "flashbacks" with certain people (especially those you trust). This is not **** and I hope to alleviate fears of any going through something like that. It can be persistant and leads to healing but still needs to have a window shade pulled on it. Without guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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