Helen Williams Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Adam represent all humankind in that God created him first, he sinned, death came, all becasue he sinned. Christ came to give life. Christ was obedient to the will of God. I beleive God is the head. I believe His death for sins can be effective for us when we have received Him as our Lord and Savior. Because of His death and resurrection, we are no longer in bondage to sin and when we fall short we can repent and be forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf1948 Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? He was the first creation of God and through him we were all born thus he represents all mankind. He is God and by his death and resurrection rid of sin and defeated death. So if we believe in him and become his desciples we are in the body of Christ and he is the head. It cleansed us and insured our eternal life if we give our life unto him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCollum Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 By what right does Adam represent all humankind? Through the disobedience of the one man meny were made sinners, because of Adams disobedinence all mankind has been introduced to sin and sin is being disobedience to God . The consequence of this first sin which we are born on account of our orgin descent from Adam. Adam's fall resulted in the corruption of the nature of all us we are broken, flawed. By what right does Christ become head of all who become His disciples. If we have been united with Him through baptism and were true disciples of Christ then when we were emerged under the water and came up out of the water that water grave then we have been united into a relationship with God through Jesus Christ as members of the body of Christ. Baptized into the body of Christ ,buried with Christ in baptism, died or crucified with Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nes Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? in Gen 1:26 God made a man at His own image and He gave to this man the dominion of all. by God's word Adam has the right to represent us. as our head when he sinned all that he represent sinned too. Christ as head died for the sins of all. col.3:3 for you died and your life is hidden with Christ in God. all that died in Christ is in Christ, and his lives is hidden. by Baptism we are united with Christ. if Christ is not our representative or head, his death will be useless, and i think he will not put to death on the cross. what for he will be crucified, he will represent nothing. as a representative he is willing to bear our sins at the cross of Calvary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Adam was born sinless. Because Adam our ancestor was the first to sin, he represents the sinful nature which all humankind inherited as a result. I though the post from janco referring to inherited disease said it wonderfully: In terms of spiritual genetics, Adam was the "founder" of our mutation which was passed on and caused us all to be affected. Christ set aside his divinity to be born human and, like Adam, was also born sinless. But because he faced the same temptations we face (and more), yet lived a sinless life, his sacrificial death redeemed us. Christ's death on the cross and resurrection was the initial defeat of Satan, sin and death itself. The power of Satan and sin were broken with death of Christ, although not completely. The final defeat of these enemies will not come until Christ returns, with death being the final enemy to be defeated. "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then when he comes, those who belong to him. Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death." I Corinthians 15:21-16 (NIV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 By being the first human and condemning all men by one sin. By being the Son of God and giving grace to all. He died for ALL- not just Adam. Christ died for ALL so we have a choice to either follow or go on our own, but by following we are made righteous in our repentance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elie Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Adam is the first human, made at the image of God. He is the elder human. As the first (seniority) he becomes worthy to represent us... Christ is the only One who, being a human, did not sin, He didn't inherit Adam's original sin; more than that He has been made "sin" by the Father, for those who believe in his sacrifice(his disciples), so that in Him(under his headship, and solidly united in Him), we (his disciples) might become the righteousness of God(see 2Co5:21). That's goes over the qualification to be our Head, we his disciples. Christ being our head, means we are united with Him. Ch6 verse 5 say it well and it's simple: If we have been united with him like this in his death, we will certainly also be united with him in his resurrection." (Romans 6:5). The effectiveness of Christ's death for sin is the resurrection for eternal life... The verse say "if", so understand, otherwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsy Laycoax Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Adam was a type that represented all of us. We are not only born in sin but we also choose to sin. If it had been anyone of us made the first person we would have done as Adam, choosing to sin. Christ has the right because He was the one perfect man who chose not to sin and He also paid the price to redeem us from our sin. If Christ is not our representative or head then his death for our sins cannot be effective for us, there is no way and we are still in our sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studybug52 Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? What is throwing my mind off is the word " right " it has so many meanings. as far as what right Adam has to represent all human kind , I feel he was the first man formed, so it wculd be by the right of genetic inheritance he was our first ancestor. And he was the first spiritual being and our soul inherited the first original sin due to his disobedience. Christ was not diso bedient to his heavenly father or earthly parents so i feel by the right of obedience he became the head of all those who become his disciples thru faith. We are justified, because of his obedience. That is as simple as I can make it. If Christ is not our head or representative then it is not possable for his death for sins to be effective for us. we must make him our head by believing in our heart , having faith in his death and resurrection being for us to save and redeam us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servant for Christ Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Adam brought sin and death by being disobedient. Christ brought grace and life by being obedient. Adam respresents all humankind because he was the first man created by God. When Adam fail, he brought sin and death into the life of every person. We are of the original sin from Adam. Christ has the right because he brought righteousness by his obedience. By his obedience he made a way that satisfied God's justice, and put us in his favor. If Christ is not our "representative"- which is our mediator to God on our behalf, or "head"- which is our Salvation, Master, Savior, Redeemer, his death can not be effective for us unless we go by the shed blood of Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnerjb1 Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 The author of the Vampire Cronicles and other type science fiction books, Ann Rice wrote something very profound, God did not understand what it was like to be human before Jesus. God created us, but he didn't understand temptation, hunger, and power among other emotions. I chose these three; temptation, hunger and power, because of Jesus' temptations by Satan. Once God became human, he then understood something about human emotions. That being said, Adam did represent humankind before Jesus. Christ has the right to become the ehad of all who become his disciples because he is God and currently sits at God's side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms CJ Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? 1. Adam is to all mankind a physical ancestor and due to this fact all mankind will inherited sin. It doesn't matter if you are born a king to many lands, you are born a sinner due to Adam's sinful nature. 2. Christ became head because of His shed blood. He is to all mankind " our risen Lord" and this is the only way now that any man will be forgiven of his treaspasses. 3. If Christ is not seen as Saviour, the slain Lamb of God, the one who came and die for all then there is no remission of sin for that one. His birth or His death will mean nothing to them. The cross will be just be a stake that held a man that was known as Jesus or know to some as just a prophet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triciahh Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Adam represents all humankind simply because God says that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? As first created man we get our human bodies through Adam. It is his first sin that infected the whole human race. As to exactly how we are all infected I can't explain except that we all sin so through Adam we are all infected. Christ becomes our head through His victory over sin by His sacrifice on the cross if we accept Him as our head and our need of His atonement for our sins. If Christ is not our head , if we do not submit to His authority over us His death cannot atone for our sins. We are still in our sins and we will perish in them of our own free will and choosing. Choose Christ, for why will ye perish? For what? Anything else is vain. God Bless! Jen Numbers 6:24-26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eudora Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? Adam represents the sin of disobedience that tends to be in all of us. We know that we shouldn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? Adam is our ancestor who was created in a pure and glorified state. When he (and Eve) sinned and fell from that glorified state, their progeny from then on were born into a fallen, unglorified state of separation from God, needing to be "re-born" in order to be in fellowship with our Holy God and Father. Adam had the right to live sinlessly and blew it. He is the "type and shadow" of the "The second Adam", Jesus Christ who would redeem us from that state. By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? Just as Adam's fall resulted in everyones fall, Jesus Christ who is Holy and without sin, God in the form of man, is the only One who could buy us back or redeem us from our fallen state. His is the right, as our Creator-Redeemer, and is the only one Who could fulfill that role. Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? When we choose to indentify with Him and to claim Him as Lord and Savior, we are so identified with Him that we died with Him and rose again from the dead with Him...we are new creatures in Him. (Just as the caterpillar who froms a cocoon around himself, actually liquifies within the cocoon, and is recreated into a butterfly...a new creature! Not just a caterpillar who grew wings.) A representative remains a separate entity acting on our behalf. Jesus is IN us and we are IN Him...a wonderful mystery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open2itall Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? God breathed life into Adam and we have shared in Adams life. By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? Christ is our Lord, who we are united with as members to a Divine Head If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? The key for us on our path is the removal of the cause that prevents, namely guilt. For us, as Christians our Lord Jesus Christ removes the guilt that prevents us knowing God and for this I am truly grateful. (but if God is an Ocean of Love, and I believe God is, then I believe all paths will eventually lead to God, for Love will triumph over all in the end, I certianly hope so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie1Rose Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Adam represents all mankind by his God-given right as the first man. From Adam came all humans, created in God's image and descended from the same genes. By the same God-given right Christ becomes head of all His disciples as they are created spiritually in His image and are reborn in Him. Christ's death for our sins can only be effective if He is our Head. His death covers our sinfulness, inherited from Adam, with God's grace and mercy. As we inherited sin from Adam, so we inherit grace and righteousness from God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? ....THAT WE ARE ALL SINNERS,,, BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND GO OUT AND PREACH HIS WORD..........WE ALL DIED WHEN CHRIST DIED TO SIN WE ARE REBORN IN CHRIST ,,NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCHRIS Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 In this section Paul takes up the principle of the solidarity of the human race. The whole race is in Adam, so that what he did is what the race did. Through this first man sin and death came into human affairs, not having been there hitherto. He sinned: it sinned. He sinned and death came upon him and the whole human race. There is another man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roozita48 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Lesson 2, Q3 Since Adam represents all humankind and we are his descendants, we therefore inherited the same sinful nature as Adam. Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaus Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Adam represents all mankind because he is our earthly ancestor who we were modeled after. Christ is our spiritual or heavenly ancestor. If we are not covered by the blood of Christ we are not a part of Him, He isn't our "representative" or "head". This is rebellion and Christ's death would be of no effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? By the right of being the first human being created by God. Thus, Adam set the precedence for humanity by the choices he made. Jesus Christ, by obedience to the will of His Father -- Yahwah -- went to the cross and shed His blood for the atonement of human sin. Was buried and rose from the dead on the third day. Jesus Christ was the supreme revelation of God the Father. Jesus said that He was the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father but through Him. Unless we invite Jesus Christ to be our representative or head, His death has no meaning or effectiveness in our lives. The choice is there. God doesn't force anything on us. We are not puppets -- we exercise free will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 By right Adam represents all humankind because it was through his disobedience that we were all made sinners. Adam's fall resulted in the corruption of the nature in all mankind. By right Christ becomes the head of all who become His disciples because they have accepted His abundant provision of grace and the gift of righteousness. If Christ is not our "representative" or "head" then His death for our sins is of no effect. One has to accept Christ as Savior in order for His death to be effective for their sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaps Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Adam, as the first physical man, set the parameters for all our activities. The shadow of sin that he introduced was inherited by us all, just as the things we do affect our children nowadays. They operate on the basis of what we have established for them to grow up in. So we operate on the basis Adam established for us, and that include rebellion. Christ becomes head because we choose to make Him our head. He will do nothing until we choose it. He has all authority as the Son of God, but He seeks fellowship with us through our own choice. It means that we must recognise who He is (when Jesus asked the disciples who they thought He was, Peter said " .... The son of God" and this perception proved to be the basis on which the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven to be given to any man. God has provided the free gift - His Son Jesus. We have to receive that gift. As the resurrected Son of God He has all rights in our lives. He is WONDERFUL. He is THE WAY that God has provided for us and there is no other. Unless He is the HEAD then the body will be lifeless. There will be no coordinator! Nothing will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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