Pastor Ralph Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickledilly Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 In 6:3-4, "buried" corresponds to going down into the waters of baptism. "Christ was raised from the dead" corresponds to coming back up out of the waters. Together, this represents submitting to the death of sin that Christ suffered on Calvary and the raising up into new spiritual life in Christ that did not exist within the believer before conversion. It reminds me of that classic example of new life - the butterfly. A wretched little worm spins itself into the chrysalis, the place where it will "die" as a pupa. The body completely breaks down into a jelly-type substance and, by the LORD's amazing plan, is completely recreated into a creature that it was not before. When this new butterfly emerges after a difficult and strenuous process of breaking through the chrysalis, it is no longer the same as what it was. Once it dries and stretches out its beautiful new wings, that butterfly begins a new and entirely different life. Its eyes are different, its breathing and sensory systems are different, its blood is different. No longer does it crawl around on the earth ripping, devouring, and destroying every green leaf in sight. Now it gracefully floats above all that and is sustained by sipping the sweetest of flower nectars. We were measly little worms in God's eyes. Christ calls us to enter into His death, where He transforms us into new living spiritual creatures. Living in that newness of life, we look beautifully different. We function differently. We seek sustenance entirely unlike what we desired in our old state. Our behaviors, activities, methods, purposes, and manner are not what they were before. As humans, it seems our struggle to break through that "chrysalis" takes the rest of our life. We usually end up looking like some kind of bizarre thing, with maybe a wing sticking out here and antennae there, but still stuck and dragging around in the trappings of death. (Think of Paul's cry in Romans 7:24, Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?) Our human battle is to be willing to allow the Holy Spirit to take every part of our wormy flesh into this death to sin, spiritually transform us completely, and break us out to actually live in our newness of Life. And full immersion in baptismal waters represents this transformation best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? When we are submerged under the water, this is symbolic of being buried, leaving our old life behind in the water. when we are raised up this is symbolic of the resurection the start of a new life in Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Stanley Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Q2.Romans 6;3-4,Being buried,symbolises the death and burrial of the old way of life. After being baptised,out of the water symbolizes our resurrection to a new life with Jesus( 6:4,Sin-loving nature is buried.We can be certain that sins' power is broken through the death and resurrection of our Jesus Christ,in which we have acknowledged,(to own or confess) Jesus Christ into our lives. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms CJ Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? 1. When we see a burial, we see a body planted in the ground and unless you understand the life of Christ and the work of the cross you will never see that body again. Same in the baptism at first, you see the body go down into the water. If you turn and leave thinking that is all just like you may have done at the burial of the body, you will never see the body come back up from the water until you hear the joy of the rush of the body as it comes back up to grab hold of the new life it has just been given. 2. Christ raised from the dead forever in the love of the Heavenly Father. I hear the word of God come alive saying; " this is My Beloved Son in whom I am well please" This to is why this corresponds to the baptism, the Father words were " this is My Son in whom I am well pleased". We must come to the Father how? In Him (in whom) here's is where the Father makes it plain to all, we must be born again, we must die to ourself, we must be buried with Him and we must resurrect through Him. Our Heavenly Father made a public statement here for all eternity to hear. Not one thing from that point on could say that Jesus born of a virgin was not the Son of The True Living God and that He pleased God. I always wondered why God chose to speak again audibly. He hadn't spoke Himself since the days of Moses. How could satan have missed this? How could the Jews have missed this? Thank God we have the baptism, the Holy Spirit and the gift of wisdom and knowledge to hear it. If we just listen! What things we will hear! People God has revealed Himself again to all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stan Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? 3 "Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life." (6:3-4) It represents our death with Christ into His death and burial. Raised represents us being reborn into a new life with Him and as such apart of Him and His body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nes Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? Buried is correspond to the immersion. if a person die he will be buried. in us we die in our sin's through immersion, our old sinful life will be buried. Christ was raised from the dead on the 3rd day. when Christ was raised He is a new Jesus with glorify body. us when we raised it means that we are new creation through Christ baptism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masika Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? The illustration bellow may make the point clear on Baptism. Once you have crucified your old ways (sins) and you repent, the dead person must be buried. Baptism, a burial in water, equates with the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is the Biblical way to be born again to new life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcrf Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? Q1: Buried correspond to immersion in the act of baptism. We bury our old sinful nature. Q2: "Christ raised from the dead correspond to coming up of the water in baptism. It symbolizes rising from the grave to a new life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 As we are not literally dieing in baptism when we go under the water we are illustrating our death, as did Christ lay His life down for us on the cross. Coming up out of the water is as we are being raised up from the dead like unto the Lord when He came up out of the tomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4-1god Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? As we are immersed in water, we are buried with Christ. When we come up out of the water, we are resurrected like Christ was, and we are changed-given a fresh start. A new life is ours in our baptism. The former things are no more-all things are new! Gloray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodExcels Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 He is referring to our symbolically dying and being buried during our immersion as Christ physically did for us at Calvary. AS we rise out of the waters of baptism we are symbolically rising into new life with Christ which is the hope of the glory of our living to one day rise with Christ at judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charisbarak Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 We identify with Christ's burial when we are submerged into the water--interesting, is it not, that when immersion baptisms take place, the person is lowered into the water backwards so the position they are in symbolizes death--as if the person was laid in a coffin. When a person is then lifted out of the water, signs of death--the position of death--has been removed. This will be like our resurrection in the end times--free of death completely!! Through baptism we are freed from sin's mastery & we're free to serve Jesus with our lives instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delivered Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? The act of baptism is the act of our burying our sins, leaving them behind, for Christ has washed us with His water and His blood. What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? As Christ was raised from the dead by the Father, we are bound by the vow of baptism, to rise to a new life, called to walk in holiness; It is our resonable service now that Christ has brought us up from death, and put us under the headship of God Almighty, part of the family of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickJW Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? In order for Paul's symbolism to work, baptism by immersion must be in view. Being 'buried in Christ' through baptism then is reflected by being placed under the baptismal waters. Being raised from the dead with Christ would correspond to coming up out of the waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? Here Paul is symbolically referring to the burial of Christ, and of our burial with Him as our head and representative. Our sin is buried; we share with Him in His death. We are dead to sin by the grace of Christ. We read in Col 2:12 also of being buried with Him in baptism. What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? It pictures the re-born believer in Christ rising to walk in newness of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? When we are immersed under the water, we are buried with Christ in the tomb, our sins nailed to the cross. What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? When we come up out of the water, we have been cleansed by Jesus shed blood, to live in newness of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie1Rose Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? Being buried corresponds to being submerged in the water, Christ being raised from the dead corresponds to emerging from the pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triciahh Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 I feel like I am missing something in this question because the answer seems too obvious and simple. Going into the water corresponds with burial and rising from the water corresponds with the resurrection from the dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf1948 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? Being buried corresponds to the submerging in the water. Being raised from the corresponds to coming up out of the water as a new reborn Christian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joan22 Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? BURIED CORRESPOND TO IN THE ACT OF BAPTISM AS A WAY IN WHICH SIN IS NOW BURIED ,OUR OLD LIFE IS NOW DEAD,AND WE ARE JOINED , IN UNION WITH CHRIST, CHRIST NOW BEING THE HEAD OVER US. CHRIST BEING RAISED FROM THE DEAD'' CORRESPOND WITH THE RESURRECTION OF THE LORD ,THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IN BAPTISM,WE NOW BECOME APART OF JESUS CHRIST WE ARE NOW RAISED WITH HIM, THERE IS A DIFFERENT LIFE,WE HAVE NOW TAKEN ON,WE NOW BEGIN TO DEMONSTRATE CHRIST LIKE ATTITUDE. NOW THAT WE ARE RAISED WITH HIM. EVERYTHING WE DO MUST BE DONE WITH CHRIST IN MIND, WE NOW REPRESENT HIM CHRIST,ITS NOT ABOUT US ANY MORE. T HEREFORE WITH BURIED IN BAPTISM SIMPLE MEANS GOING UNDER THE WATER. CHRIST RAISED MEANS COMING UP FROM THE WATER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsy Laycoax Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Buried in the act of baptism corresponds to going completely under the water. Christ was raised from the dead corresponds to our coming back up out of the water which represents what has already taken place in us and that is of becoming a new person when we accepted Christ as our Savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Q2. (Romans 6:3-4) In Paul's reference to baptism in 6:3-4, what does "buried" (6:4a) correspond to in the act of baptism? What does "Christ was raised from the dead" (6:4b) correspond to in baptism? We die to our sins and are raised in newness of life in Christ God Bless!!! Jen Numbers 6:24-26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Williams Posted October 2, 2008 Report Share Posted October 2, 2008 We have died to sin through union with Jesus in His death. Water baptism puts us into relationship with Jesus and specifically with the death of Christ. We are buried with Him through baptism into His death. What Paul meant by this is not that our baptism simply symbolizes, in submergence under water, Christ death and burial, for Paul make clear that we were buried"with" Him, not just "like" Him. Our faith, symbolized by baptism, puts us into relationship with Christ's own burial. It's only when baptism join with genuine faith that it possesses any meaning. We have been join with Christ in such a way that we have died Him, we have been buried with Him and we shall live with Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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