Ms CJ Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? 1. The problem with the false teachers' doctrine is that it produces twisted, distorted Christians, if you can call them that. Such Christians at Ephesus displayed problems with pride, hypocrisy, and questionable ethics. Jesus said that you will know false teachers by their fruit (Matthew 7:15-20) I couldn't say this any better myself! 2. It enslaves the ones that embrace the truth. The spirit of the church becomes unbearable to stay in when you will not go along with the false teachings. 3. Growth will never come when we allow ourselfves to become stuck in a wrong belief system. This happens in any thing we embrace from untruths or teachings. Pride is the emeny to truth. Pride stepped out of the truth in the garden and sin stepped in. Pride comes before a fall and Paul understood this principle. 4. The minute false teachings begin the church is no longer teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. It no longer has that endured power given by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can no longer remain in charge of the truth there, nor can the angel assigned by God. Man does not consider the spiritual divine order placed over a church. If it is the true established work of the cross, it truly believes in the virgin birth of Jeuse Christ and it believes that Jesus handed His church over to the Holy Spirit to teach, guide and comfort us than God was never in the birth of that church. If the leadership imputs their own belief systems in and taken the gospel out as we read Paul writing about, than God has stepped out and satan has stepped in. We know this to be true by the events in the garden. One or the other will be in command and Paul understood this also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 False doctrine caused divisions, strife, confusion, heresy, asceticism, which caused misery and, in turn, a bad religious experience. When you have false teaching in a church there is no way for everyone to be on the same page. More experienced believers will disagree while unlearned will tend to accept incorrect doctrine. This results in a negative vibe and destroys the work of the Spirit which is truth. No one wants to be in the midst of confusion. Weak members leave, potential members stay away. The mission of the church, that is to grow and spread the gospel, is greatly hindered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart for God Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? When the Word of God is not being preached people begin to wander spiritually looking for their own answers to their questions. They begin to seek the advice of those who do not know or have not studied God's word. They begin to form their own options of what His Word says leading them to be prideful of their knowledge. They begin to talk with others leading those into deception or confusion. When we stray from the truth we stray from God's love, word and peace bringing division and strife among His people. There are many books that are on the christian markets that people read... they must learn to judge it agains God's Word or this leads to confusion and false doctrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickie Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Specific things are addressed by Paul later in 1Timothy, and these must be the problems resulting from the false teachers/teaching. E.g., women and their roles in the church, qualifications of church leaders and general church instructions. Paul must have heard of this situation through trusted associates, friends, other church leaders or maybe through unintended conversation with others. The results of the false teaching were basically dissension, controversy, concerning situations that alerted many. Word of this situation had spread so that it was known to many ....Clearly, this was concerning and not joyful. The spirit of a church promotes GOD and His Son Jesus Christ. GOD is the source of all "good things." The church is not exempt from negativity, "bad" things, or problems, but uses ALL things as ways to learn, grow and promote GOD's goodness, love and care. We learn and we trust those in leadership roles to initiate this purpose. When a leader teaches something contrary to GOD's purposes and plan, there results in problems and controversy; not peace and solutions, resolution and discovery. One of my pastor's sayings jumps in my mind here ...."let the clear interpret the unclear." I believe growth is prevented because there is no time to reach out to others when you are too busy looking at yourself! A group or church immersed in controversy and discord is not attractive to many outsiders - except, of course, those who like controversy! But the person who is desperate for love and acceptance and peace - "beat down" by previous attempts at looking for the same - would be looking for a different sort of atmosphere. Growth IS the mission of the church. It is our mission invidvdually as well. Bringing as many people as we can to Christ ensures their salvation, GOD's kingdom, and ....is there anything better or more satisfying than seeing someone get the best gift in the world?! Mickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLENE G. Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? From what I gather some of the results were that the people were being led down a false path. They were getting off track. Or as my Pastor would say, chasing rabbit trails. Any controversy hurts the church because it takes the focus off the Lord. We become entangled in man's opinion instead of trusting scripture. A church that's not scripture based cannot grow spiritually. It may grow in size but if it's teaching false doctrine and leads people astray from God's truth they will have to answer to the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLENE G. Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 They got away from what they were to learn and ended up just talking about things that didn't matter. Which leads to getting into things that they shouldn't have been involved in. When there is controversy over doctrine there ends up being division which leads to all kinds of things..... Backbiting, gossip, anger, pride,unforgivness, hate..... But most of all it hurts all the people who don't know Christ and what He is about, they just walk away. They very people we are trying to reach. I agree with that. There are christian message boards that are a good example. While the idea is a good one, a place where Christians can get together to discuss the Bible and fellowship, It often becomes a battleground of beliefs and chases away those who are truly seeking to know God. Charlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q1. (1Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? When Paul left the Ephesian elders for the last time, he told them that after his departure wolves in sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hausmouse Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q.1 There were certain men who were wasting time engaging in pointless discussions. These topics perhaps made them look wise and knowledgeable, but Paul writes that they didn't really know what they were talking about. They grasped at minutia and lost sight of the important issues of the faith -- the things that Paul encourages Timothy with -- things like guarding the treasure within him (2 Tim. 1), like the hope that we have in Jesus Christ our Saviour (1 Tim. 4:10) or honouring widows and the elderly. Their offbase focus at Ephesus meant that instead of moving forward in the work of the gospel (v. 4) they were teaching a false gospel and some were rejecting the true faith (v. 19) "How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission?" Too often conscientious and Godly leaders spend time in what I call "putting out fires" instead of being free to teach the Word and 'shepherd' their needy flock. One area we've seen in our previous churches was when church politics became the focus instead of "what does the Bible say." Discussion of church government is an example where the Bible does not give precise, or detailed direction, and so people can spend endless amount of time trying to work out 'issues.' Clearly when our teaching moves away from expounding the Word of God, we do not grow. Again, to move a little into 2 Timothe it is all SCRITPTURE that is profitable for doctrine reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness -- that's how we grow, not by endless geneological disccusions, or man made myths. Our Lord told us to make disciples -- teaching them -- again, not our own ideas or 'myths,' but "All things that I [Jesus] have commanded. That's how we grow. That's how we fulfill our mission. amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 False doctrine resulted in the church believing myths instead of the truth, thus becoming confused. Also endless geneologies would (I think) cause the people to be in competition as to who could trace their ancestors back the furthest. This puts the church's focus on themselves and NOT on Jesus. Growth comes to an end when our focus is taken off Jesus. We need to be in relationship with Jesus. When the church is arguing, rebelious and full of meaningless talk, the Holy Spirit is hurt and will abandon them, and any mission they once held will be forgotten and abandoned. God bless, Love Greta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? False doctrine brought confusion, produced greed, division, meaningless controversies. Those teaching the false doctrine and "new" truth were drawing attention away from the true Gospel, to make names for themselves... lifting themselves up instead of lifting Jesus up. In all things we are to "look unto Jesus". How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? The Church's mission is diverted and the purpose is perverted. Infighting "kills" the love, trust and acceptance needed in order for growth to occur. It causes new believers to distrust Scripture, and the idea that the Bible must be "interpreted" by these self appointed teachers creating an unhealthy dependence upon the "gurus", rather than trusting the Holy Spirit to interpret and reveal Scripture to them. It allows the spirit of fear to flourish, rather than peace. How does it prevent growth? Faith comes from hearing the Word of God...when false doctrine in introduced it stunts growth and faith, by diverting the hearer to minutiae and controversy. It stifles the ability to learn and quenches the Holy Spirit. It produces factions and division, rather than unity and harmony. How does it keep the church from its mission? Infighting, greed, & confusion cause the church to implode rather than to grow and expand. Pastoring gets diverted to dealing with the false instead of the true. Spiritual abuse flourishes in this toxic atmosphere, and the sheep are wounded and/or scatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie11 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? False doctrine in the church of Ephesus resulted in some church members believing that only a few with special knowledge would be saved and the church having a fascination with myths and genealogies, etc. Doctrinal controversy causes confusion in a church in which a lot of times it causes members to leave the church. Doctrinal controversy prevents growth by causing the church not to be on one accord. When the Church is on one accord and get back to what it is all about which is saving souls then the church will began to grow. It keeps the church from it's mission by the confusion it cost. When the church is in a confused state, it looses site of the mission;saving souls. Charlie11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHARLENE G. Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? The false doctrine had made some people to turn aside into wrong faith, the teaching that to be acceptable to God, a person had to discover certain hidden knowledge and had to worship angels as it was seen at the Church in Colosse. These false teachers were motivated by their own interests rather than Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaps Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? The results of false doctrine are devastating, bringing division, less than moral behaviours, and walking away from love which is the great motivation for everything God does. People leave the church, and others follow a lesser gospel which has rotten fruit (consequences). The spirit of love becomes old hat as other things take precedence. The spirit of the church is no longer based on love (by this shall all men know that you are My disciples, that you love one another), but is based in domination by elders with a false ethic - ie it becomes a cult because no-one can challenge the leadership and call things into order. Probably the emphasis on evangelism gets lost in the process. When the spirit of evangelism is lost in favour of extraneous consideratons the church will slowly die. People may still attend, but the love is gone and tradition becomes the dominant thing. New people will not be attracted to a list of 'traditions' which have no power in the spirit, or healing power. There will be no signs and wonders following the teaching, nothing for people to see, no power of heavenly authority backing the church. It will attract less and less attention until it doesn't matter any more in the culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s8nfighter Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Among the results of teaching false doctrine is the falling away of church members, but the biggest problem is the realization that salvation comes from faith in Christ Jesus. It appears that the church at Ephesus started out correctly and then began to feel somewhat self-righteous. And in their self-righteousness they began to judge others according to law and heiritage. Doctrinal controversy hurts the spirit of the church by division, faliling to point out the fact as recorded in Eph 4:4 "There is one body and one Spirit--just as you were called to one hope when you were called-- 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." A good example of this division and exclusion is speaking in tongues. There are some who would claim that if you do not speak in tongues you are not saved. So if I believed I had no chance of salvation or union with Christ without speaking in tongues then I might ask, "Why bother?" And as far as the mission of the church to preach the gospel to me; it would do no good because I do not fulfill this one point of false doctrine. (Mission Failed) Darrell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGrant Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 False doctrine, or controversy concerning doctrine, causes the spirit of the Church to be directed towards that controversy and not toward worship and studying God's Word. It may cause strong believers to find somewhere else to worship, and visitors or new members to not return to church at all. It may cause members to spend time questioning their choice of a church and distract from studying the Bible. The Holy Spirit won't be felt in a congregation that isn't focused on God's work. It hurts any outreach or ministry, and keeps the church from it's mission: to spread God's word to all. False teachers cause such harm to those who are truly trying to learn God's plan for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherman Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? When false doctrines are practiced in the church it discourages true believers and tends to take away some of the peace and spirituality found serving God. Kind of like a bad apple in a barrel. If left alone soon all will be bad. In the church if such false teachings are practiced long enough, sooner or later the people will consider them over the right teachings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roseangela Agunda Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? Leadership crisis among the elders Desire for wealth - greed Divisive ascetcism from the Judaizers Destruction of the faith of some Confusion and controversy disturbing the peace of and unity of the church These quarrels resulted to envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions. These resulted to stagnancy of church growth and changed the church focus to always sorting out issues instead of growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkey1020 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? A. Results of the false doctrine: a. people making up stories and creating fantasy family trees b. people looking for more than they have B. doctrinal controversy hurts the spirit of a church because: a. it leads to false teaching b. in false teachings, the teacher will teach things that he believes causing others to believe this, this causes the people to quarrel because they are at odds with each other. People begin to get confused because of the false teachings. They aren't always told the same thing. C. Growth is prevented because people are at each other because of their confusion and gossiping, causing them not to work together. When there is controversy among one another growth can not happen. D. The church's mission is to teach the teaching of the LORD. When you have false teachings, you can't do that. People begin to teach and believe what they want, not the way things are supposed to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delivered Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? Empty, senseless talk, can lead to discourse in the church. How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? It can put ones FAITH to a test, causing confusion. How does it prevent growth? Faith produces LOVE, the church will grow only with unfeigned faith, complete confidence in God; therefore, it is important the church stay away from empty talk that leads not to unfeigned FAITH - faith that God anables each of us to grow by. How does it keep the church from its mission? The churches' mission is to preach God's word, for there is power in the Word of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choice Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? False doctrine creates a disruption of peace and unity in the church. False doctrine will make you ? the pastor's spirituality and leadership abilities, if you are so busy fighting amongst yourselves you are less likely to move on and you can not grow if you don't let go of bitterness and hatred. a church cannot get a following if it cannot agree on the message to deliver.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisingod Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Our church growth is stunted because the non-believers don't want anything to do with a church that is living the same way as the non-believers do, arguing, dissention. Those within the walls are stunted because they don't trust, so they may just go there to hear a message or two trying not to disregard the meeting of fellow believers but as far as getting more involved, they choose not to. The churches mission is so distracted trying to keep the body from dismembering itself that they can't have their focus where its intended to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioned Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? Some of the effects of these false doctrines in the church at Ephesus were crisis among the leadership and elders. Some of them were false teachers who were regurgitating what other false teachers were feeding them. There were those who sought after wealth and became selfish to the point of causing division among them. These false teachings were stripping the people of their faith and causing confusion and controversy that disturbed the peach and unity of the church. Doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church by bringing doubt and distrust in minds of the congregants. When false doctrine perpetuate those in the congregation that know the pure unadulterated gospel will leave and a once thriving church will find itself struggling with few members. The church soon find that it has strayed from its mission because its false doctrine in in conflict with the mission of the church of Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wondering04 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 False Doctrines hurt the church because it increased controversies about God's Word, the Judiaizers came in and tried to cause division among the members, there is a destruction of faith because the mixed teachings can confuse faith. The people broke into arguments and fights. Given we are to be part of the whole Body of Christ - Christ the head and each of us part of the Body, when our body is fighting against itself it hurts the whole Body of Christ. No part of the body acts alone. And when we are not acting in accordance with our Head - Christ - then we pollute the mission of the Church. We had a missionary visit our church from the inward parts of India. He is currently being sponsored by our church to attend graduate school. He told us that one of his teachers told us that the church has broken out into over 5,000 denominations - a denomination being a group of believers larger than 2000. And he was genuinely puzzled about how there could be so many denominations when there is one Word of God, and Jesus never mentioned denominations. Beth Moore talks about rib issues and spine issues in one of her teachings. The church can be broken apart by bickering over rib issues - and what really matters are the spine issues - Jesus is Lord, He died for our sins, He is the Head of the Church, etc. Satan loves it when we bicker among ourselves for it weakens the Body of Christ. When nonbelievers come to a church that is bickering and pointing fingers and denouncing doctrines of other churches it does not show the love of Christ or make the Gospel attractive. Instead of unifying under Christ, we are showing divisiveness. Heather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eudora Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? People were moving away from truth. How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? It causes arguments and take the focus off of the truth that is through Christ Jesus. How does it prevent growth? If it isn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrstoler Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Q1. (1 Timothy 1:3-7) What were some of the results of false doctrine in the church at Ephesus? How does doctrinal controversy hurt the spirit of a church? How does it prevent growth? How does it keep the church from its mission? The result of false doctring was quarreling,strife,fighting,destruction of faith,controversy. Doctrinal controversy hurts the spirit of the church when everyone is not on one accord in what they learn, people are taught to sin against God. The doctrine is confussing and no one knows what is truth and they start to do things their own way and not follow the true word of God. False doctrine stunts the growth of someone weak in the faith because the person is taught the wrong thing and does what is wrong in God's sight. Everyone is going in their own way and no one is together in what God's plan is for the church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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