Kent Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Paul reminds Timothy and the church that God wants us to come to him in prayer with an open mind and without anger. Our thoughts should be directed toward pleasing Him and worshiping Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettyJo Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 For some reason, I feel that many of them were still babes in Christ. Still need training in the Word. The more mature ones may not have been as matured as they thought they were, as they would have known not to bring confusion in the mist. As babes in Christ we need to grow and we do make mistakes. God does hear our prayers and guide us in to more maturity. The Holy Spirit will guide us into more maturity to do the things God would have us to do. Precious Name Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL3471 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I bleieve Paul was telling people that they are to pray everywhere continually for all things. Not just publically to look good and/or scorn people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8). What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? The problem of fighting over doctine or other issues within the church was creating a toxic spirit within the church. Paul wanted the men in the church to pray by lifting up holy hands. Lifting up holy hands means being morally and spiritually clean. Biblical prayer must be done with a clean heart and life. See Hebrews 10:22. Without wreath and doubting/disputing: Wrath is a slow, boiling type of anger. Doubting literally means to think backward and forward. It carries the idea of disputing. Prayer is to be offered without resentment or disputing among those in the church. If believers do not have good relations with others in the church, they should not lead in public worship. Wrath and anger divides and utlimately destroys a local church. I don't believe that God responds to prayer or worship with the opposite of love in your heart. It is an insincere and futile exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katina Angelle Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8). What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart?  The false teachings stirred up controversy within the congregation, which caused confusion, arguements, disputes and disorder. Paul was confronting these matters, which affected the purity of worship in the church. Worship should be pure; therefore, the heart must be free of any and all negative feelings towards anyone.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifee Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 3a)Paul is aware some men were lifting their hands,Jewish custom to bless God &bless, whilst in strife &infighting with others.Praising with their mouths,while having hearts of anger& in dispute with false teachers about their teaching. Â b)Worshipping with a heart of anger,resentment etc between our brother affects the purity of our worship individually &as a church. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift." (Matthew 5:23-24)We cannot worship in spirit &truth in a way that pleases God who is pure,for him to hear us,if our hearts,hands&minds are not clean ,as imprity intrudes in our worship of God."When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide my eyes from you; even if you offer many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood; wash and make yourselves clean." (Isaiah 1:15-16a)Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8). What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? Paul refers to the infighting and petty arguments that the men have between them. This causes division and resentment in their hearts and would cloud their minds and hearts. When you worship with the above feelings in your heart and mind, you can not connect to God in the loving , caring relationship that He wants us to have with Him. We have to be clean of these feeling to be honest to others, ourselves and God. We can pray to God and ask him to solve the issue and help calm us and remove the bad feelings, but we can not worship in the deeper sense without being hypocritical, if we carry anger , resentment, revenge etc. in our hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Edwards Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 New converts at Ephesus came from mystery religions.  Though Christian, some of their old habits persisted in their spiritual lives.  Christain prayer was not like the frenzied pagan mystery religions in which all sorts of strange behaviours took place. The Oracle of Delphi is a good example.  At that pagan shrine, the priestess would go into a trance and state oracles from the gods; this was due to putrid fumes from the underground.  Also there were men in a mystery religion in the Phrygian area of Turkey that would castrate themselves after getting into bizarre states of mind.  This type of worship was contrary to orthodox Christian Church worship Apostle Paul wanted to stress that Christain prayer is very holy; he was truly emphasizing the utmost respect for God based on the five books of Moses.  We are temples of the Lord Spirit; we cannot allow anger or any negative attitudes to ruin our temples.  We live in an imperfect world. We have to endeavor to live in peace with all men. This way we adorn the Gospel by our lives. We pray for those with love though they may cause much grief at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crissy464 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 The false teachers were causing disagreements of salvation among the church's people. God desires unity, to love everyone, God will not hear our prayers if we do not truly believe in him, and worshipping with him  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissi Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? The church did not feel God's entire presence/power or were having their prayers answered. This applied to the entire church, not just the "bad apples." So when a few in the church were angry and unloving in their worship, it brought down the entire congregation. The men in the church are often/usually it's leaders. When men are angry, that anger filters down into the entire church including women and children. The closer to the Lord a church is, the more likely it is that one member can influence or impact the rest of the body. Like a gangrenous finger or toe, this individual can infect the body. It must be dealt with. But many of us prefer to run away from conflict that dealing with this problem would create. We prefer peace, for good reason. The remedy is difficult. As a congregation, the ones who are spreading anger and dissension have to be identified -- that alone is difficult. But once identified, the angry-ones have to be changed, which is a work of ths Holy Spirit. I suppose church discipline comes in at this point, but this is rarely done. Personally, if I'm doing something wrong or am angry at someone my spiritual life is immediately tainted. I must right the wrong with confession and a determination toward holiness. If I don't right the wrong in me quickly, the tainted-ness begins to feel normal and I am less inclined to deal with it in the future. This probably applies at the level of church, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clelie Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Praying with doubts is sin . Prayers should be sincere with a pure motive .prayers should  be done in peace to a peaceful God. We must not be a double minded person when we pray according to apostle James . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niyonka16 Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? ANSWER: Paul is countering that cultural trend and specifically telling men to pray. He IS saying he wants the men to pray. There is a reason that he is singling the men out here. When Paul says he wants men "everywhere" or "in every place" to pray, he is saying he wants the men to be active and involved in each of these places, these house-churches. To be sure, the women as well were to be involved and were involved, VERY involved, but Paul wants to make sure that the MEN were involved, especially in prayer, in each and every place. What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? ANSWER: Our hearts should be so in touch with our Father and so in love with the Lord that it is our delight to filter every thought that comes into our mind through the Lord Jesus. Paul exhorts us not to be in a state of anger or argument when we pray. Certainly, our pleadings and petitions, prayers and thankful praise should not be from a heart that is harboring resentment or unforgiveness, anger or bitterness but from a heart that is holy and clean before the Lord, a heart that is gentle and gracious, a heart that is submissive before the Lord; for God looks on the state of our heart. Praise God that we can approach the throne on grace boldly, and give over to Him all of our anger, anguish, resentment, and malice, making the way clear for us to life up holy hands and pour out our praises, petitions, and thankful worship to the One "Who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-c Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? Paul mentions in Chapter 1 the problem of false teachers and then in Chapter 2 he mentions kings and those in authority. As well as the general issues that occur at every church that cause squabbles and disagreements among the membership. Paul is expressing the need for sincere prayer by the men of the congregation. Not prayer for the destruction of false teachers and evil kings, but for their salvation and deliverance from the evil one. And for God to bring His perfect peace into the hearts of those who are prone to argue, complain and start dissension. Prayer is essential!               God speaks to that quite at bit. If you are in a dispute with a brother, leave your offering and go make things right with the offended person. He realizes that it is very difficult to worship Him with a conflicted heart. He desires mercy, grace and forgiveness so we can worship Him with a clean heart. For me, when I can begin to pray for someone it’s the start of the road to forgiveness.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldress Rowe Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 The problem among the men of the congregation that Paul was referring to was disputes which seriously affect the purity of worship. They were going through the motions but their hearts and mouths were full of anger and infighting intruded on their worship. When we worship without love in our hearts God doesn't listen and He hides His eyes from us. Matthew 5:23-24 tells us that if we are offering our gifts on the altar and remember that a brother has an ought against, we are to first go and be reconciled to that brother and then offer our gifts. James 4:3 says the reason we don't receive when we ask is because we ask with the wrong motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanele Tlhakanelo Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Paul is addressing the issue of worshiping in truth and in spirit as they would be full of wrath and doubt but want to lay hands on people. When you approach the Throne of Grace, you should know that you are there to serve God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. God wants pure hearts that is why He says He will hide His eyes even if many prayers are offered because they first need to cleanse themselves. God wants us to be forgiving people. He forgave us and therefore we cannot come to Him without love and expect Him to hear us. You cannot approach the Throne of Grace full of anger not unless you ask for forgiveness and repent from your sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crissy464 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Men should pray in holiness, not amidst the anger generated by the controversies and disputes stirred up by the false teachers. If you want to worship with God and be heard you need to love your brother and sister in Christ  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sister Evelyn Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? Besides displeasing God, anger and controversy make a prayer difficult. The problem was due to again controversies stirred up by false teachers, the men in the church of Ephesus have been in constant disputes. What is so serious about worshiping with the opposite at love in your heart. Jesus says in (Matthew: 53-24) that we should interrupt our prayers, if necessary, to make peace with others. God wants obedience and our goal should be to have a good relationship with God and with others. Remember God sees out heart. And, because of serious controversies it had affected the purity of worship in the church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolaas A.P. Mostert Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? the men in the church of Ephesus have been embroiled in disputes. What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? Â Jesus had instructed his disciples that worship must be pure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funmilayo Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? *I think Paul is referring to the many controversies stirred up by false teachers,which created divisions & bickerings among the members of the church. *Worshipping with the opposite of love in the heart is a sheer waste of time, because it is totally unacceptable to our God ,who is love himself. Hatred is a character of Satan. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Q3. Unfortunately the false teacher who at infiltrated the church in Ephesus had caused anger and strife among the congregation, it would appear from these verses that the men were particularly affected. They were coming to worship with hatred anger and strife in their hearts. Because of this they were unable to worship in spirit and in truth. Their minds were preoccupied with other matters. Unless they came to worship with peace in their hearts and their minds focused on the Lord their prayers would not be heard. This is also a warning for us not to approach worship with worldly things occupying our hearts and minds. It is an insult to God and our prayers will not be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Edwards Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 We must be reconciled with others before we bring our offering to the Lord. Very important concept! Prayer is very holy, we have to hearts of peace, not full of strife and anger.  In the Ephesian church, the vain gnostic philosophical subjects perhaps we're causing debates amongst the congregants.  Instead of magnifying the Lord in their services; they were harboring strife and anger towards other believers in the church that didn't share their particular version of gnostic Judaic angelic emanations.  Entry into the HOLY of Holies for the High priests in the OT wasn't a casual matter; carefull attention to various rules had to be performed. Sons of Korah lost their sense of the Holiness of God when they rebelled in the desert.  Ananias and Sapphira also lost the sense of God's immense holiness. We pray for all men.  Apostle Paul knew the importance to pray for all; God's plan of salvation was revealed from heaven.  No time to let anger and strife to sidetrack our prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haar Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? A3. Paul encouraged Timothy (and the Church) to raise holy hands in worship to God without quarreling among themselves as God would not answer their prayers. This became necessary because there were quarrels and disputes particular with the false prophets and God would not answer prayers offered to him in such state of the heart. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Jerry Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 The men of the church must have been arguing with each other and Paul was telling the to stop arguing. If you don’t have love in your heart when you worship the you are just going through the motions. You really don’t have your heart into the worship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Q3. (1 TIMOTHY 2:8) What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshipping with the opposite of love in your heart? Paul is not referring to our body positioning while praying, but to our attitude with which we pray. God hates a purely outward religion, one which has no substance, and is only a front of righteousness while living in sin (2 Tim 3:5). Outwardly they seem religious, but inwardly they are living a lie, masquerading under the name of Christianity. The hearts of the believers were full of anger and hatred brought about by the infighting that the false teachers had caused. We will find that we cannot pray in peace while we have any anger or animosity towards others in our hearts. We need to be at peace with all, and to have confessed our sins before praying. If not, God will not hear our prayers. These broken relationships hinder our relationship with God. Any problems we have with another person should be resolved ASAP; if not we are hypocrites who claim to love God while we hate others. Our relationship with God is reflected in our attitude towards others (1 John 4:20). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Grant Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Q3. (1 Timothy 2:8). What problem among the men of the congregation is Paul referring to in this verse? What is so serious about worshiping with the opposite of love in your heart? 1. The problem among the men of the congregation was controversy of salvation that false teachers were causing among the people. Although disagreeing with one another they carried that anger with them to worship, which did not allow them to truly worship God. He let them know that their prayers were not heard by God if any anger was in their heart. 3. The problems were infighting and anger. God does not accept the worship of a heart that is not pure.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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