Pastor Ralph Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? Especially when the Elders work is teaching and preaching in addition to looking after the affairs of the church. Paul called this practice "double honor". What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? It's basis is in the Old Testament, Lev. 19:13, Deut. 24:14,15; Deut. 25:4, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood C O'Dell Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Paul simply states that those who are doing the Lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charisbarak Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 If elders are working full-time in their ministry. preaching & teaching, they are deserving of double honor. Honor of position & honor in pay. Animals who labor are fed. Deut. 25:4 Workers are worthy of their wages. Luke 10:7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia A Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Paul especially honors the elders who labor231 in teaching and preaching,232 over those whose main tasks are administrative. And they should be honored by compensation when they do their work well. Paul directs here that elders are deserving of financial remuneration for their work. That's the meaning of "worthy of double honor" (5:17) -- (1) respect for their work as well as (2) the "honor conferred through compensation, honorarium."230 Elsewhere Paul explains that those who labor in the Lord's work are entitled to support, using examples from support of the Old Testament priesthood as well as the right of farmers to share in the crop they work on (1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6). In verse 18 he cites Old Testament precedent as support: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masika Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? The maintenance of every man in the Church should be in proportion to his own labour, and the necessities of his family. He that does no work should have no wages. In the Church of Christ there never can be a sinecure. They who minister at the altar should live by the altar; the ox that treadeth out the corn should not be muzzled; the labourer is worthy of his hire: but the altar should not support him who does not minister at it; if the ox won't tread out the corn, let him go to the common or be muzzled; if the man will not labour, let him have no hire. The scripture that support this are 1 cor.9:14, Acts 20:35, Philippians 3:2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 If an elder is a full time worker for the Lord and is solely dependent upon the church as a means of survival then that person should be compensated for their commitment. Deut 24:5, 1 Cor 9:9, 1 Tim 5:18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4-1god Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? In the afore-mentioned scripture, elders should be compensated, especially if they are preaching and/or teaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Q2. (1Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Many of us have been deeply influenced by the men and women whom God has called into His service, and whose life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? When they make it a practice to teach and lead in the ministry of Christ. 1Cor 9:10Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope. 11If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? Lev:19:9And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest. 10And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God. Deut: 24:14Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates: 15At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Where elders are in full time ministry and devote all of their time to the church it is fitting that the church should pay them a salary, one that will allow them to pay their way. The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honour, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, 'Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,' and 'The worker deserves his wages.'" (5:17-18) The right of farmers to share in the crop they work on (1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raider Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Elders should be compensated if the affairs of the church are directed well. The Scriptural support for this is Luck 10:7 the worker deserves his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debbine Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 It seems all are, but Elders who are preachers and teachers should be compensated double. Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaps Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Everyone should be compensated financially when they labour. Elders should be compensated double because of the quality and importance of their work. There is plenty of scriptural support in both the Old Testament and the new to say that wages should never be withheld from those who have worked, and that the need of those so abused will reach the ears of the Lord and be recorded as sins against the perpetrators. Christians in business, and the church with elders need to know they are accountable to God for the proper and appropriate financial care of those who work for them. Financial integrity ti a requirement of Christians who do not worship money, but honour the Lord with all their substance (heart, mind, soul and strength) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahala p.s. Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Elders should be compensated financially in circumstances of that they labor in preaching and teaching, and that they do their work well The Scriptural support for such a practice is as follows: 1. Support for Priesthood (who are Levites) by other tribes of Israel (Deuteronomy 18: 1-8) 2. The right of the plowman and the thresher to share in the harvest based on what they each do (Deuteronomy 25:4; 1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6) 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses 4 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? See that teaching elders are honoured and properly supported. Refuse to hear any accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses. Rebuke those who sin, that others also may fear, but avoid all partiality. Don't choose your church leaders too hastily. Live a clean life and take care of yourself. You know those men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Elders who direct the affairs of the church and who preach and teach are worthy of financial compensation. Luke 10:7 The worker deserves his wages. Deut 25:4 Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading the grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roseangela Agunda Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Elders who are in fulltime ministry, who direct the affairs of the church well, should be honoured Tim 5:18 says do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain and the worker deserves his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin D Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Elders that do their job of teaching and preaching well. Elders that have devoted their lives to teaching and preaching and are solely dependent on the church should be well compensated. 1 Timothy 5:18 states the laborer is worthy of his reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servant for Christ Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? When they are teaching and preaching. Scripture: 1 Timothy 5:17-18; Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 25:4; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4; 1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delivered Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? An elder who rules his household and the church well is one who has studied, labored in God's word, so that he can feed the flock on sound doctrine; He is a man who works hard, not slacking in his responsibility to God and the church, he is worthy to be compensated with a higher compensation, so he may go forth with the calling of God. What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Lev 19:13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning. Luk 10:7 And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCollum Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Double refers to two types of honor, (1). Respect for ruling well and (2). Adequiate pay for their diligent care of the church. Financial care for elders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf1948 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Jesus says when they preach and teach they are deserving of double honor. 1 respect and 2 financial. I would guess this means full time teachers and preachers. The words of Jesus says even the oxen deserve thier pay meaning the get to stop and eat some of their labor (grain). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 The circumstances in which elders should be compensated financially is when they are involved in the work of the church, teaching and preaching. The scripture support for this practice is "The worker deserves his wages." 1st Timothy 5:18b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerraw20 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Elders who labor and do there work well, especially those who teach and preach.(1 Timothy 5:17-18) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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