Mrstoler Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? The elders should be compensated financially because of the faithfulness to the work of God. They are concerned about the spiritual welfare of the congregation. The Lord Jesus says that the servant of the Lord must be paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewell Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Elders should be compensated financially when they labor in teaching and preaching. This is scripturally supported in 5:18 "The worker deserves his wages". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosenstein Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? The preachers and teachers should be compensated financially for their work. The Hebrew scriptures told how the Levitical priests were compensated by the religious community. The workers deserve their wages. (Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Luke and James). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosenstein Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Elders should be compensated financially for their work as leaders of the congregation, for teaching and preaching as opposed to administrative work, for doing their work well. Scripture references: 1 Cor. 9:5-14, Deut. 25:4, Luke 10:7, Lev. 19:13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaus Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Elders in the church should be paid wages for directing church affairs and are worthy of double honor for preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, 'Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,' (1 Corinthians 9) and 'The worker deserves his wages." (Luke 10:7) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISTinUS Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 1 Timothy 5:17-18 * In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? Elders should be compensated when working "in directing the affairs of the church", both with honour, and with financial remuneration, which is the sharing of the harvest and responsibilities as well as the work well done. * What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? The beautiful illustration of good treatment of a working animal is quoted in 1Corinthians 9:9 "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." Jesus also preached the same principle in Luke 10:7 "...the worker deserves his wages" in whichever way he blesses you, you are to honour him. Deuteronomy 24:15-16 highlights it as a sin: "Pay him his wages each day... otherwise he may cry to the Lord against you, and you will be guilty of sin." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioned Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? In verses 17-18 Paul admonishes that the elders should be compensated, "The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, 'Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,' and 'The worker deserves his wages'" (1 Timothy 5:17-18). Jesus also taught that those who labor in the ministry should be compensated for the worker is worthy of his wages (Luke 10:7). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peggy Crans Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? They should be honored and compinsated financially(double honored) when they do their work well especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. Deuteronomy 25:4 says "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.Oxen were allowed to stop and eat some of the grain. That was their reward for doing a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambler Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Those who labor in preaching and teaching. (2 Timothy 5:17,Deuteronomy 25:4,Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debbiemoore Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? when they are in the teaching and preaching job of the church they are the ones who are the ones who overseethe church and therefor should be compansated for that honor. it states this in the old testament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suedeboy Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 The bible has made it abundantly clear that we should not denied the worker of his wages.There are many scripture verses on this.For example :Galatians 6:6, Leviticus 19:13,Deuteronomy 24:5-14.However, we need to be careful that the people we are paying are preaching the true gospel.Like in the Ephesian church where there were many false teachers,the same is true of many of the churches today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 According to the Word of the Lord - elders that labor in the work of the Lord are entitled to compensation - especially those who direct the affairs of the Church (Pastors). . . Paul supports this with instructions and examples that are set forth in the Old Testament as well as teaching from Jesus. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalume Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Paul especially honors the elders who labor231 in teaching and preaching,232 over those whose main tasks are administrative. And they should be honored by compensation when they do their work well. * Honest treatment of workers. "The worker deserves his wages" cites Jesus' teaching on preacher compensation in Luke 10:7 and rests on the ground of a number of commands in the Old Testament not to defraud workers, but to pay them promptly for their work (Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara A. Lee Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Elders are to be compensated by renumeration of thier work, by DOUBLE HONOR. Luke 10:7 is the Scriptural support for this, as well as numerous scriptures in the Old Testament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamjar Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamjar Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? When they labor for the Lord. Jesus said "The worker deserves his wages." Scriptural support is found in I Corn. 9: 5-14, Galatians 6:6, Luke 10:7, James 5:4. Old Testament, Lev. 19:13, Deut.24:14-15, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Jerry Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 The circumstances that elders should be compensated financially is when they are teaching and preaching the word of God. The Scriptural support for such a practice is in the Old Testament that we should let the ox eat the grain that it is treading out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleswings01 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Elders who direct the affairs of the church well especially those whose work is preaching and teaching should be compensated financially. The Scriptural support for such a practice is 'Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,' and 'The worker deserves his wages.'" (5:17-18) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Paul points out that elders who are teaching and preaching in the church are worthy of being paid for their services. He explains by comparing their duties to those of the priests in the Old Testament who were to be supported by their members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? Paul uses two scripture references to support or prove his statement that elders should be compensated financially. The first is Deuteronomy 25:4 and the second is taken from Luke 10:7. Paul takes one verse from the Old Testament and one from the New Testament. He refers to both of them as scripture. It is obvious from this that Paul considered New Testament writings as of equal authority with the Old Testament. These scriptures teach that an ox which is used in the harvesting process should not be deprived of a share of the grain. Also, a laboror is entitled to a portion of the fruit of his labor. So it is with elders. In spite of the fact that their work might not be physical (preaching and teaching), yet they are worthy of the support of God's people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifee Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 2a)Elders who work full time to teach,direct &lead a church it’s affairs,its mission, should receive “ double honour”,respect for what they do &financial compensation,payment for their work.b)Paul cites in v18"Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain." (Deuteronomy 25:4). Even oxen who thresh the grain after harvesting, but would be allowed to pause to eat some of it during their efforts, inferring should have compassion for workers.Also cites Jesus' teaching on preacher compensation in Luke 10:7workers worthy of their wages, based on commands in O T not to defraud workers, but to pay them promptly for their work (Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Edwards Posted October 4, 2023 Report Share Posted October 4, 2023 Those who labor in the preaching and teaching are counted of double honor. The other class of elders are due honor for their governance of the local church; they have superintendence of the affairs of the congregation. Deuteronomy 25:4 ".....thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treaded out the corn". Also Luke 10:7. Both the Law and the Gospel sanction the due support of the ministry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissi Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 First, I do not understand why "double honor" refers to financial compensation. Why doesn't it mean as it appears -- that elders are doubly honored/esteemed (compared to other honorable people) BY the congregation? Yes, this phrase is followed by the reference to muzzling an ox, but even that could simply mean that only elders who are financially independent should be in this position. Paul, himself, was a tent-maker. He didn't demand compensation. Is this not ideal? Second, God promises to provide our needs. He MAY choose to use the church's budget, or may not. I read, a few months ago, a bio of George Mueller who depended solely on prayer to meet the huge financial obligations he had incurred by rescuing orphans off the streets. Mueller never asked for money. He simply prayed. Donors, some of which were not Christian, would feel compelled to give to his orphanages. That's how God worked. Third, right now, in the Western Christian church, there are a bevy of traveling "entertainers" who come to the church to do a single service or, more than likely, a mini-crusade-revival half-week. Their services are not free -- often, what they charge is quite steep, in fact. Now, it would be easy to say that these itinerant preachers provide a needed function in the church and therefore should be compensated financially. Obviously, they're not situated within the church as are elders, but are a class of traveling, unassociated evangelists/prophets/apostles who may or may not have a home church, so, the likeness is not complete between these verses which refer to elders and this contemporary practice. Fourth, plenty of Christians give hours upon hours of their time and labor to a church never expecting to be compensated. They look to God alone to provide their needs. To single out elders as the one group that merits compensation seems wrong. Perhaps impoverished elders had been an issue in this particular church which needed to be addressed? If so, tehre's no reason to generalize it. We all know that the "lesser" positions in the church often require as much, if not more, time than that which elders give and, if the principle is to not muzzle the ox, then these "lesser" oxen shouldn't be muzzled either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Q2. Paul tells us that Elders who do a good job in teaching and leading are worthy of double honour1Tim.5v 17. By this Paul means they are worthy of the honour and respect that goes with being an elder in God’s Church , but in addition to this they deserve to be compensated for their good work. Paul refers to various Scriptures that teach us to pay promptly those that have done work for us. We must not delay as the worker may be poor and totally dependent on his wage to feed his family. The Lord will be angry if we defraud our workers. Leviticus 19v13. James 5v 17. Deuteronomy 24v14-15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-c Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice? “The elder who rules well are to be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching.” Deuteronomy 25:4: “You shall not muzzle the Ox while he is threshing.” And the laborer is worth his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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